Posted by Croaker on 03/14
Opinions on imm applicants should be sent to the department
heads only, not posted on public boards :)
Tuesday, March 07, 11:19PM
I missed them? Damn!
BTW, will applicants get to hear what was said about them as long
as the person who said it is not mentioned?
Wednesday, March 08, 12:42AM
I'd also like to know whether the comments are completely
anonymous, obviously if sent by email there is no character
name attached, but the dept head may know who the commenter is.
Wednesday, March 08, 11:00AM
-ponder- guess I was right, after all.
and again, with permission, I'll post my thoughts, in public.
it is my opinion that one of the admin applicants
is a bit much, that being Fraegis. I've had several encounters
with him as an alt, all of which showed a certain
level of immaturity, and I simply don't think we need people
like this in the admin department, the other two
applicants, I think, would make good imms however.
Another thing that I feel is important, is Fraegis being
the spouse of a current immortal, I just think
he has much to prove before he can take the step to
being an immortal.
I really don't care about who gets imm'd in other departments,
because the power they receive is much less, IMO.
but anyway, I'm done rambling, these are my opinions,
and my opinions alone.
Wednesday, March 08, 11:08AM
Please... if you're going to post here...
realize that this is not required reading for voting imms. If you
would like to be certain that your opinions are read, e-mail them
to the department head. Most immortals will not give much, if any,
weight to this discussion. Should you choose to have this discussion,
Keep this discussion polite. There's a fine line between slander
and opinion, stay on the opinion side, I will remove any posts
that I feel to be harassing, threatening, or rude.
Ideally, I'd leave RL out of this as much as possible as well. Imm's
(or morts) personal relationship are largely irrelevent on Legend,
or at least they should be.
Not trying to squelch discussion, just setting some facts straight.
(and, to answer a question, the comments forwarded to department heads
will not be given to the applicants regardless of the outcome of the
Thursday, March 09, 12:08AM
Why not? Might be a good way of getting them to look at themselves
I know I would like to hear what other peoples concerns are in order
to avoid making mistakes in those areas. I feel a summary of any
issues that other people raise would help me quite a bit, even if it
is just, who the hell is that?!
Thursday, March 09, 12:29AM
"I've had several encounters with him [Fraegis] as an alt,
all of which showed a certain level of immaturity...."
I think its really unfair to blame Fraegis for the fact that
you showed a level of immaturity in your encounters with him.
Judging by your general behavior over the last few years, I'd
say you probably show a level of immaturity in your encounters
with everyone, not just with Fraegis.
On the matter of showing applicants comments, I don't think it
matters whether they see them or not, but obviously they can't
now since it was stated already that they wouldn't. But if somebody
raises a specific allegation, I think the applicant should get the
chance to clarify it through questioning, without revealing who
Thursday, March 09, 03:02AM
I agree, if allegations are made against a cantidate, don't assume that
they are true without putting some effort into finding out for sure, no
matter who makes the allegations.
Thursday, March 09, 09:22AM
Just would like to say, I consider myself fairly active on
Legend (arguable, i guess) and I find it slightly irritating
when i see applications from characters i hardly recognize.
Personally would think it should be mandatory for imm applicants
to be at least having been nominated for an expie (not that i
recognize ppl there all the time either). I don't expect
everyone wanting to be an imm nominated as best citizen or
something, but one should at least be in the candidacy for
best gm (simply head a clan!) or any of the other categories
where candidacy isn't as limited
Thursday, March 09, 12:16PM
If there are specific incidents mentioned in a comment, we'd
certainly look into it, as we've always done. Generally, however,
the comments tend toward issues of attitude and reputation, which
mortals are uniquely suited to provide us with perspective about.
Thursday, March 09, 10:31PM
In regards to what Lagmonster said....
- Not matter how active you are, you can't play in all time zones
- Have you been that active for the last 5 years? After all, the player
in question could have played as a full time occupation before you knew
the game was here. In fact, you might well have run with him/her/it on
many occasions and simply forgotton about it.
- I have been nominated for an Expie. Best mud citizen as I recall. It
wasn't this me though, and no I did not win. I would also point out that
the expies nominations hardly represent a cross section of the player-base
- Why should a player imm his/her/it's favourite character? The one with
the most established role play? After all, imms are ooc all the time, they
can't take part in much. It ould seem a waste to have all that ability
built up over time taken out of the game. Why not put some life back
into one of those archived characters?
- Like other people said, its not a popularity contest. The strength of
the proposal and the good that you will do for the mud counts more than
your popularity imho.
Friday, March 10, 04:24AM
Sometimes I think people don't realize that there is more to an
imm application than just proposal. While popularity shouldn't
be a factor, past behavior, respect from other players and imms, as
well as general organization and skill should be.
Respect from others is overlooked, but if/when someone that isn't
well respected in the community reaches a higher position (such as imm)
some of that disrespect will find its way towards the previous imms
as well. "why would they imm -player A- if they are a known rule breaker?
Don't they know? Don't they care? What are they trying to accomplish
by doing this?" Its happened before.
Tuesday, March 14, 07:37AM
Well said, Ton.