Posted by Mars on 04/22
Okay here's what the deal is and this is first and only
warning....sorry Asguard about junking the sidhe tunic but
those are easy to get so not a big deal....if I am standing in reception
and you give 'mar' something and it defaults to me I'm going to
junk it no questions asked, and no if's and or but's about it
I'm not going to say anything just junk item....I got royaly
screwed when I went afk in teh room and someone gave 'mar'
an amethyst ring to preserve....I don't presrve and don't plan
on learing anytime soon. I lost a cloak of midnight with no
stat minus on it and I'm pretty f'ing pissed off about it since
a bunch of you know who gave me the ring and won't say because
it's an illegal thing to do and you don't want to get your
fellow pillow biter in trouble....the mud has been warned.
Monday, April 10, 06:23PM
get chalice 2.pouch
fill chalice trough
put chalice 2.pouch
Why don't you just drop the item? -ponder-
Monday, April 10, 06:24PM
how about not going afk at the reception?
Monday, April 10, 07:28PM
How about people type out 'marauder'? I'd probably do the same
thing Mars says in his post, personally. If you give me an item,
without my asking, and are too lazy to type out the entire name
of the person you're giving it to, you deserve to lose it if
you put me over rent with it.
Abigail, the lass that used to always get attacked by her pkenabled
groupmates too lazy to type out Rachael.
Monday, April 10, 11:26PM
Just a warning to you Mars, im not even sure its relavent but people can
probubly fool your triggers with emotes so you might be junking items
that you yourself own. You might figure a way past that or think of a
Tuesday, April 11, 03:44AM
I think many of us have had experiences similar with the problems associat
with being able to abbreviate character names and such,
experiencing everything from misplaced items and attacks,
through to some righteously offensive mistells, etc.
perhaps a way to avoid this in the future would be to make
the afk command also turn of a players ability to be
given items whilst afk. this might possibly put an
end to these furious posts from players hell bent on
venting their spleens, and hang the consequnces.
I understand Mars is angry, but 'pillow-biters'?
Tuesday, April 11, 10:21AM
Archmage -- It isn't my responsibility to not be allowed to sit
around whereever I want without having randoms give me stufff, and
in addition it is illegal. Read the rules, doesn't matter if it is an
I will not be afk in the reception anymore anyway, but I will be there a l
lot as I have for the past 5 years when Marauder wasn't there. If you giv
e me something and I am at keyboard it's junked.
Narcisse---try not to take yourself so seriously and whine b/c you think
someone may have said something non-PC. I can be a lot worse.
Tuesday, April 11, 10:28AM
No, Mars you are the one whining, he was just commenting that
you are a sad case.
Not that I have a clue what pillow biter is.
Tuesday, April 11, 10:42AM
I don't know Mars, I wasn't there when this happened, but to everyone
who says he's whining...well, how would you feel if you lost eq because
someone was too lazy to type 5 extra letters? M-A-R-A-U-D-E-R. It's not
Tuesday, April 11, 04:27PM
Narcisse - lots of people use the afk command to simply catch
tells while on runs or zooming thru the MUD or just cause they're
lazy. Restricting any commands whilst afk would be very annoying.
Mars, you're justifiably upset, but don't you think that junking
items is a little too harsh? Personally, I always found it kind of
fun, under pkill alts, to steal and hide items of people that annoy
me. You might want to try this instead of junking things. It's much
more fun for you, and people will learn from their mistakes, once they
find their stuff, instead of just getting pissed at you.
Tuesday, April 11, 05:45PM
Mars isn't whining. He's doing just what anyone else
in that situation would do. It's not his fault for
going afk. It's the fault of the person not typing out
the whole name.
My recommendation to him is that he sell back the
items at a ridiculous amount to whoever gave it to
him and if they refuse to pay him for it, then he
can junk it if he wants to. It's -YOUR- fault for
making the mistake.
Tuesday, April 11, 10:51PM
If you actually read the responses you will see nobody is accusing
Mars of whining for threatening to junk equipment. He accused
sobody of whining for making a negative comment about his behaviour. He is
negative comments about other's behaviour in his post. Therefore if Narcis
is whining (which he isn't) so is Mars.
I personally find it sad when somebody who sneers at the rules
(eg by gloating about warnings on chat as thought it was something
to be proud of then starts insulting other players for not
reporting rule violations.
Actually it says in the rules that to put somebody over
rent intentionally is illegal. If immorts punish people for an accident th
since the rules are frequently not enforced exactly as they
However, I find it odd that apparently it is not illegal
to intetionally deprive somebody of their equipment by
cheating them on auction or offering to tform their
equip and then keeping it, yet apparently it is
illegal (according to some) to put somebody over rent
by accident. When you have people punished for an
accident but not for doing the same thing deliberately
through dishonesty, I think its an odd situation.
Tuesday, April 11, 10:57PM
Oops, sorry about my raw telnet there.
Meant to say, it wouldn't surprise me if rules are not enforced
exactly as they are written.
Wednesday, April 12, 05:00AM
What if some dumbass walks up to you, gives you a
pieca eq puts you overrent? and you lose all your crap
and you had strings, old crap etc.
Well, i'd be pist..i'd probably do what Mars is doing cept i'd
whine and bitch too =P
And again, i don't think it's THAT hard to type in a couple extra letters!
Hrm, Typhoid-Mary mentioned to me they should put in config recieveeq..
i think that should be imp'd!
Wednesday, April 12, 05:44AM
Here's an idea just in case that idea doesn't get imp'd.
get chalice 2.pouch
fill chalice trough
put chalice 2.pouch
Dunno if you would wanna do it though..just a suggestion.
How about, if you are afk, hold a whole lot of gold
so noone would be able to give things to you. Don't
take it the wrong way, but i'm just offering suggestions
so you don't lose your eq cause personally, losing eq sucks.
Wednesday, April 12, 11:32AM
Go Mars! I would do the same thing. Losing an old cloak sucks:(
Wednesday, April 12, 11:22PM
junk junk junk junk it!
lazy ppl shuld be shot
jjunk junk junk it!
i wud too
Thursday, April 13, 02:26AM
actually mara is an acceptable substitute for Marauder
it's the one I always use.
As for people giving someone something that puts them overrent
you would have to know how close they are to their rent limit
to intentionally put them overrent in the illegal case
unless you happen to be dumping blackthorne rings
and gnarled wands and plat. leaves onto people
Mars is just a freaky doo dah
I myself have an old eye which I would hate to lose
moreso my single personal string, or the one pertaining
to a past relationship.
However that is little cause to get bent out of shape
and junking people's EQ
I liken this to the PKer who multi's someone
because they accidentally backstabbed them
using the wrong keyword.
just an oops.
Cheeze.. be nice to people.
Thursday, April 13, 05:16AM
I really don't blame Mars for his feelings regardless if some think that
junking items is a tad bit excessive. It's not really that difficult to
take care in typing just a few more letters to spell out MARAU or even
MARAUDER. And while we're on this subject, people should just try to do
a little simple task of typing 'ask marauder report' when you come up
to use him. You'll not only see how much ma/mv he has to spare, but
you'll also be able to notice if your abbreviation of Marauder works.
More or less just make an effort to type at least MARAU for your sake
as well as any potential person that may be put overrent by carelessness.
Friday, April 14, 09:00AM
First off, this has happened to me, too. Simply put, people should
not just use Mar to mean Marauder because there's lots of Mar's around.
Offhand I can't think of another Mara on the mud. (if there is one
I apologize). Being given an item to tform has only happened to me
rarely, more commonly I get told services or asked to fly someone
or give an orb and such. When I am given an item, I know this is
a wacky idea, I give it back and say 'try marauder.'
Maybe I'm just too polite. Maybe I should try to sell it back or
junk it or some such. I'm always at the keyboard when this happens
so I'm not in danger of going over rent. (partly i have way too much
free rent for my own good, partly I tend to go ooc when i'm afk for
a prolonged period.)
Of course, the config receiveeq is a nifty idea, but takes away from
some things, like my str-fighting pk'er giving an annoying sniper
several thousand gold coins to hold them in place whilst I wallop
them. Then, maybe we could have eq-ok, like pk-ok, but for getting
eq. But that would be downright silly.
Honestly, Mars, I think it was your fault for being afk and where
someone could give you eq (read: ic), and especially silly of you
with a name starting with Mar to be in the recep when you certainly
have been asked to give someone a newbie kit and fly someone and such
before. You should have known someone might accidentally give you eq
and even if the rent issue wasn't a concern, you might be concerned
that the involved party would like their old, strung, or simply hard
to get eq back as much as you'd have liked to have kept yours. But
that wasn't your concern now was it? You lost eq, so therefore,
anyone else abbreviating (or even making a typo, mars and mara aren't
far apart on the keyboard) must lose their eq too. How very mature
and considerate of you. So seriously, if someone gives you some eq
by accident, just give it back. What are you going to do to avenge
yourself on the heartless masses that ask you 'praise'? Satire them?
seems appropriate right? Then the people who have the nerve to ask
you flight or orb, why don't we just pkenable and hunt them or their
alts down. Sounds about appropriate, after all, they spammed you the
seeing what they ask instead of seeing them ask marauder something.
The utter nerve!
I have decided, you're right. From now on, anyone looking at me like
they might think I'm someone else, I will probably just hack your
computer and destroy your hard drive for the first offense. Second time
I'll come hunt you down in RL and torture you until you scream "I know
you aren't Marauder! I'll use whole names from now on!!!" OK?
aka Mari, who always signs things with abbreviations but won't anymore
lest someone think this was written by a different char abbreviated
PS for those of you who might be easily upset or frightened, the last
paragraph was total sarcasm. The extent of my ability to hack your
computer would be to write you a mudmail reading 'consider yourself
hacked. you have a virus now, you should reformat and stuff.'
which, you know, doesn't do anything.
Friday, April 14, 02:23PM
Hmm, a new thread.
Lazy typing. One of my -biggest- pet peeves.
R u going 2 giv that back, or junk it? -snarl-
Tons of people here are lazyasses when it comes to typing.
they deserve what they get.
Now then, on to Marauder.
I like his player. A lot.
Do I like him as a bot. Hell no.
Dunno exactly what tengent I'm taking myself off on, but hey
I said some things I felt I needed to say.
Friday, April 14, 11:14PM
I'll stay by what I said before. If people are too lazy to type out
5 extra letters, I think they deserve to have their items junked. Or sold,
or kept, or whatever. M-A-R-A-U-D-E-R. It's not hard, folks.
Saturday, April 15, 04:29AM
just remember that typing marauder may lead to giving items
to his doppel if it happens to be in the reception.
Sunday, April 16, 02:27AM
I'm going to make a char named marauderz, stay
in the reception, and wait for all the goodies
to come racking in....muahhahahahaha
okay that's enough
Sunday, April 16, 10:32AM
giving stuff to MARAUDER ends up with his charmies..
Friday, April 21, 08:19PM
Giving stuff to 'MARAUDER' does not end up with his charmies unless he
has homunculi, doppels, or greater summons. Elementals, which he does
seem to have around these days, can't hold things.
Like Mars, I'd junk the items. I have had alts who've been given the same
things by lazy people and no, I wasn't afk. I was standing there,
reconnecting 12 times in 3 minutes with response from the mud for 1 comman
every time I managed to reconnect. So I KNEW I was well and truly over
rent with that nice SSS someone was so kind as to give me. I didn't junk
it that time. But I do view it as my own prerogative to do so. So if that
person you accidentaly give the old SSS to happens to be an alt of mine,
Gwalchmai ap Lot
Friday, April 21, 08:22PM
Oh as to the giving to wrong charmie etc. Just check the room. And
alias having marauder tf eq.
Saturday, April 22, 03:20PM
The way I see it, doesn't matter at all which opinion I support with
regard to whose fault it was for the loss of that old cloak. The simple
conclusion is that if someone gives me a piece of eq without my consent
I have the right to do whatever I want with it. If it's nice I may
even keep it. =)