Posted by Jesus on 10/11
ok, I'm officially out of the pk loop until imms
decide to recognize that cast levels on magic sink
need to be changed, and make magic sink strictly mind,
or whatever, as long as they recognize the problem.
If any coders want specifics, send me a god damn tell
when I'm around, I'm too pissed off to write them
down right now.
-Jesus Christ, YadaYadaYada.
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 07:36AM
Actually, we've discussed some changes to magic sink and how it works
entirely. The details are up on the board here somewhere...
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 07:38AM
The discussion was held in post 28 (currently).
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 09:10AM
I reread your ideas on sink, ruf. And I think your changes
make low level sink even stronger for most cases.
I cast low level sink... if I sink 2 spells in a fight from a high
mind cause mage... Im damn lucky... 50mind times 3/2 is 75mana.
75 mana is 2 spells at LEAST for any high mind mage.
In other words, the "new" sink will block spells as effectively as
the old sink.. 2 if Im lucky. Only the new sink cost 15 mana.
The new sink will still block item spells as well and me less mana
too. 15 mana for a sink that stops blinding arrows as well as one
that used to cost 35 mana? Hell yah, you just made 50 mind mages
a lot stronger.
Maybe if you made it so a sink would gradually wear down, even
if you got a spell through... and it didnt sink. So even if Poetry
never gets her spells sunk in my magic sink, after 5 or so immolates
that got through, the black aura collapses.
This way, the greater ability to sink mana for the high mind sink
actually matters, making it worth more mana than the 50 mind
I think item cast spells should drain away 5 mana each time.
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 09:23AM
Ok, I have worked out a neat idea, I hope you like it.
Lets make dispel arrows -100 mana drain against sinks. That means
that a 100mind cause mage, that has a 150mana sink, could
take 2 dispels before the sink is gone.
So lets say that Im fighting Poetry, who obviously chose to sink
before fighting a sniper like me. Her sink is worth 150 mana, and she
has strength and bless on.
I shoot the first arrow, it hits and her sink goes down to 50
strength left.... I reload, shoot again... and the -100 arrow
finishes off the sink. I reload dispel and shoot again.. this time
the 100 mana starts counting toward spells... 15 of it is used to
kill bless, 30 of it to kill strength.... and the rest wasted. If Poetry,
had a lot of spells on... more than 100 manas worth, some would
survive. If Poetry resinks.. then she buffers her spells with a 150 mana
chant vid pur vant ex buffer.
This way, a snipers arrow can dispel a 50 mind sink in one blow... but
would take 2 shots to blow up a high mind mages sink.
You could make the dispel magic SPELL 3c create, destroy
150 mana to make it a bit more powerful.
Just some ideas:)
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 10:31AM
Hmm, your suggestion considers dipped arrows, I still think
filmy's should be yanked despite having a bow using sniper.
If that were the case would you bother to fire off 2 dispels?
Other things to consider, cause has some 0 lag prep spells,
weaken, clumsy etc.. you could wear down a sink pretty
quick with those as it is, would you want the lag increased?
I reckon sink should just allow all spells through but the
target receives a % of the mana. I was going to suggest
yanking it altogether but at least that'd keep it useful
while getting rid of the luck factor.
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 05:29PM
Ok I dont understand what you mean by 150mana sink.
Are you saying that If I want a 150mana sink, I gotta spend
150mana? If thats the case dont think would help too
much cause 150mana is a LOT of mana for my charas.
I can cast my 35mana cost sink now 4 times.
how about 150mana sink only costs Half, so 75
mana to cast that sink in this case.
Another thing couldnt I just cast a 1mana sink to stop
dispell arrow and weapon specials? I think
most of the time thats what sink is used for.
dunno just some thoughts
Tuesday, October 10 2000, 05:35PM
I think the more irritating, thing is the fact
that a 50mind mage sink can suck up and 100mind spell,
I can accept 50mind sink for weapon/arrows protection
but it being able to stop a spell from someone with
twice the power that the 50minder got just isnt right.
I dont really like the change that it can only suck up so
much than it poofs. only cause it gives that edge to the
low minders, and the halflings. I think
its better to just get rid of cast level on that spell
and make it sink based on mind, and for duration,
I guess it can work like that mana idea, but perhaps
100mind should last lots longer than 50mind.