Before i get into this, i warn again that this is long and will be
done in sections.. flames are welcome because i know they will be coming =
Lets start with suggestions and suggestions that i dont like..
idea: AA's can only attack other AA's
Bad idea in my mind. Yes it takes it back to the old days whoopie..
those days are gone.. get over it and lets work with what we have.
Problems in this are many and i really think are overlooked..
The basic of these problems are such: Say i was new with pk.. and i wanted
to pk with some of my friends, but my friends include lets say.. Craven
Ruby, Gaidal, Trish, and all those other lovely aa's that would do this.
Me being new to pk.. i would not want to go AA just to be able to pk
with my AA friends... next: Say im an rper and there is an ongoing rp
war with my clan and another.. now to make it fun we want to hire some
mercs to take care of a few of our problems.. problem is they are AA.. and
ofcourse neither my clan or the other rp clan are AA's.. So it becomes a
problem to get others involved in an rp plot just because they are AA.
idea: AA's having an auto tick timer when first going AA
I think not only is this a great idea but it is needed in this system to
make sure players dont abuse the accepting, rejecting, accepting an online
target, then doing bad pk be it looting, multi etc, then once again reject
-ing said AA. What i suggest is an auto tick timer for accepting all..
This tick timer should be I would like to say double a normal tick timer
or normal pk fight timer i should say. Is that fair? Yes i think it is ver
very fair. If i didnt want it to seem more fair i would say triple it..
Doing so with an auto tick timer when accepting all will get rid of
not just the ones that want a quick target, but also put more thought
into peoples heads about accepting all. Now a step further..
I also think this should be so if you are a normal pkok enabled and you
accept an AA. Is that fair? Hell yeah it is fair.. what makes a normal pko
-k player so special? I think if you are going to accept an AA then you
should be ready for what comes of it. This stops a few problems as well
First i see that AA becomes worth being AA for the simple fact that
if a normal pkok player accepts you and does something bad.. your timer wi
will run off before thiers.. thus ending in either you rejecting the
normal pkok player, or having plenty of time to reset their timer.
And getting them back for whatever.
idea: the little special asterix next to your name
Yeah its nice to have it for AA's, but it is also equally nice to have
it for players with long accept lists who arent AA. At this time you
can accept up to 32 different players.. now that is a bit big to sift
through to remember who the hell your actually accepting.. then finding
if they are online or not. I think not only should AA's get these no matte
matter what.. i also think there should be an asterix next to who you have
accepted.. It cant be too hard to code to check ones accept list.. put
the little special asterix next to everyone who is online and is on said l
list.. Just helps out a lot.. there is nothing particularly special about
being an AA just so you have an asterix.. i rather know who im accepting
without reading my long list of accepts simply by typing who or whos.
Looting isnt a big problem i dont see.. but all the players who sit
on the sideline of pk think this is the main reason they dont pk..
These players are affraid of this more than anyone can express.. why?
Not only because of old gear.. but because of the past of Legend itself
We have had some infamous pkers who were known simply for looting..
Now i see two sides to this.. i see the side of making looting only zips
and treasure marked things.. the other side i see is making the lovely
tick timer to work for us.. Be it a tick timer for holding onto a stolen
item or what i think is best is.. you cant reject anyone you have stolen f
from.. period.. end of story.. you loot you cant reject as long as you hav
have an owned item. Then there are ways around this too.. having players
steal the stolen item from you.. also dying and having someone steal it
and many more ways.. I say we make any owned items cursed to the thief
which it already is to a point... Also i say if the thief dies.. the item
that has a stolen flag on it can only be retrieved from the corpse from
the thief or the owner themself. No need for the owner to steal back the i
item.. Then again.. when i pk'd you had to steal it back.. not sure if tha
that has been changed..
Sorry for all the truncated lines.. ill keep it at that for now.. maybe ad
to it later..
Sabu.. the ghost
Monday, April 09 2001, 07:54PM
Now a quick thing on this bashing be it imms or mort bashing with
I for one think this system is good with great possibilities.
I have heard players go on and on about let the imms do thier job with
players and let us have the old pk back. Well i dont see the imms as
anything special. They are players just like any mort is but they
are more ooc and have been branded as peace makers, watchers, and worst
of all power freaks. Some of those are good things, while others just
make me sick. If you really think they are babysitters or they do things
just to piss you off or what you would call abusing their power.. no
wonder why they dont want to have much to do with pk anymore. Over the
years i have seen how affecting pkers can be on imms.. They have dealt wit
with the worst of situations and with the worst of players. I dont
blame them one bit for wanting a system to where they dont have
to spend every waking hour on watching pkers, listening to a bunch of
whining, name calling and whatnot. The list goes on.. They are just like
any mort, they are human, they make mistakes sometimes too, and do we
show much appriciation towards them? nope.. hardly any.. Well.. i say this
good job so far imms.. call me what you want, but i respect everyone on th
this mud, and have much respect for the imms who not only deal with
the everyday little tidbits but also the insanely hard times and situation
players get involved with and or do.
The same goes for every mort on here.. I am not going to say everyone
should help out and resolve petty things and bashings but I feel if
anything happens on here.. be it bashing, harassing, multing of others
and what have you.. I am there to talk with em about it. Why? Because we
if you want to believe it or not.. like it or not.. we are a community
We all come here with intentions of having a good time. Yes sometimes
this can become more than just a game.. and I know that personally it can.
I rather see players and/or imms talk more in a calmer manner then these
senseless lashing out and control bursts i see here. I'm not going
to pick on pk.. but i would like to focus on it. Pkers complain there
arent enough AA's around.. well i can tell you why.. and im sure a lot
of other just plain old players will tell you the same. Not only have
I been involved in situations, but have seen situations where pk has
turned up that jerk trigger in ppl. This discourages wannabe pkers from
ever getting too involved.. If you show them multi and ruthless pk.. then
they begin to think that is all pk is.. So ofcourse they dont want to
get involved.. I sure as hell wouldnt either. They see us bashing imms
on this board.. they see us bashing morts on channels.. And what is our
main bashing involve? PK! So instead of bashing everything lets try to si
sit and reason and work things out.. enough of this crap. I'm fed up
with this bickering back and forth.. fighting believe it or not actually
doesnt solve everything!! So as you read this.. think of more ideas..
think of good things you would like to see, or not see happen with stuff
just dont go on and on about oh imms suck they wont do this and that and
bleah bleah bleah.. I dont wanna hear anymore fighting about what we can
resolve with cool heads.
And imms.. this goes for yall too =p, i have seen a few imms post on here
in some fashion that infers a basic pissy attitude..
And like i said.. we are all players of legend.. we arent all saints.. but
we can atleast be helpful and in a nice way to eachother instead of a
quick thought of bashing because of a problem or suggestion..
Tuesday, April 10 2001, 08:16AM
I have to be honest and say that your post was so long
and spammy that I skipped it... can you offer us a
"cliff notes" version?
Wednesday, April 11 2001, 06:38AM
AA's only attacking other AA's.. not a good thing
Looting, double tick timer given to looter or switch so only treasure
items can be stolen
Accepting All, when doing so double normal fight timer auto..
Asterix, make it so its your accept list.. easier to type whos then
sift through your accept list if you happen to be a freak and accept
the 32 limit..
there it is in a nut shell =p
Wednesday, April 11 2001, 06:46AM
You forgot giving people the option NOT to have star by their name.
Perhaps it could be configurable, like whoises and stuff, to be able to
be AA without the asterix. A lot of people would still choose to display
it, while those concerned about being on someone's shopping list could
choose not to display it.
When I had a pk char there were no stars, people had to randomly backstab
to find out if you were pk and in range.
still around, and still stirring the pk pot on the boards
Wednesday, April 11 2001, 09:16AM
the aa's only attacking other aa's problem you described was already
resolved sabu. It was said if the aa actually accepted a singular
person, they could fight that person without them being aa. But if
I'm aa and your not, you can't just type accept mandarb and kill me
when I'm at 4 hp. I have to accept you.
Wednesday, April 11 2001, 10:28AM
thanks darb for the info, as you can tell i havent keep completely
up to date on whats going on.
Oh and yeah kinda like what tarn stated, I also put up an idea for
the lovely asterix ;).
Friday, May 04 2001, 11:10PM
hrmm.. it might be a good idead to make them do some funy socials
like ripoping of the heads of people
--oh that would be SO funny (sarcasm)
but you get the basic idea, angels could say how all will worship or die..
and demons can say yada yadasatan etc. (but not as far as to offend anyone
i hate colors :)