Posted by Moo on 09/01
Why are they still illegal? Isn't it impossible to heal
a pkenabled character who has been hurt in combat with
a nonpkenabled character? Just wondering.
Thursday, August 30 2001, 12:50AM
Cause the players are the one thing the imms can't control, till they
break a rule, so a healing bot for everyones use would be like, a
dagger that backstabs for 400 points of damage, if they change the rule
the entire mud will be unbalanced, nobody will ever hear the words
"im about to perma, im soooo low on xp" ever again, and our lives will
be ruined. then they'd just have to change the rule back, making us all
wonder why they changed it in the first place. A better question is, why
is it still illegal to give away pkenabled characters? That is one rule
that really needs some re-thinking..and the regular imms don't wanna do it
which is why i proposed that wonderful Pk Imm idea a while back -Cough cou
Thursday, August 30 2001, 01:42AM
Picture this scenario - pk clan has house with impassable doors, they
park a healing bot in the house. Unless you're in that clan, you
cant get to that bot, making it unable to be attacked by you.
Sounds like the definition of pk interference (see help interference).
Technically the bot may be accepting you, but if you can never get to
it, you still can't attack it.
The impassable door scenario is just one way this could be done, off the
top of my head I can think of at least 2 other places the bot could be
where it can heal, but you can't attack it. And that's without even
trying to think too hard.
Thursday, August 30 2001, 02:25AM
Why would you want to give away a character you've spend hours and
hours on? Another thing, it's probably not allowed, because most people
,myself included, likes to think that with a specific character it's the
same player every time i meet that character.
Thursday, August 30 2001, 06:23AM
I like the PK imm idea. That way we can go back to having hard-core
pk battles rather than this little "I just rejected all challenges from
you" -Giggle-. If there was an option to go hardcore, then the PK Imm
would be there simply to settle disputes.
Thursday, August 30 2001, 07:26AM
On the assumption that we can find someone to volunteer for
the most thankless job of the admin dept., namely keeping
pkillers' tempers in check and getting them to interact
with the rest of the playerbase in a decent fashion --
and that someone can be here 24/7, meaning that s/he can't
have a job, a life, kids, or any other interests -- and
that s/he is willing to argue endlessly with those who think
his/her judgement is unfair -- and argue endlessly with the
head of admin and the implementor when players then take their
complaints a level up...
I seriously don't see this happening. On the other hand,
it'd be nice if people were less quick to accept, fight,
and then reject to avoid retaliation.
She Who Sleeps With Razormice
Thursday, August 30 2001, 02:53PM
as long as the morts keep saying it'd be nice and the imms keep saying
it'd be nice about completely different things requiring the other
one to do something, nothing's ever going to happen. Oh well I guess.
Thursday, August 30 2001, 08:22PM
First of all, about the Healing bot in a house thing, how about using
judgement? It may not technically be illegal but it is in spirit, thats
why we have admins instead of pieces of code to hand out warnings when we
break the rules, cause admins can think, and make judgement based on the
As for the pk admin guy, I'll do it. I don't have kids, I'm too young to
think about it anyways, the only thing that takes up my time is work, and
i work mornings, and 90% of pk is at night or late night anyways, soooooo
There is one thing and only one thing that can offend me, so I could deal
with the players insulting me all day, I virtually never get angry, I'm no
not prone to power trips, i hate double standards more than anything, so
wouldn't run around wrist slapping some, and deleting others..
And i've broken the rules enough to have at least a good idea what they ar
are, and in alot of cases, a very very very very very very good idea.
Whats more is, I can devote a billion zillion hours a day to legend, since
my friends just left for colledge, and i'm terribly bored. And I think I
know most of the pkillers well enough to know when someone is clowning
around, and when someone is ooc raging against someone.
Not to mention I'm pretty good in an arguement when I have to be, and if
that fails, I have a stubborn streak a donkey would envy, to fall back on
in my administrative desicions :P
Plus! -pant- Then there would be an imm to reliably enable people on.
So to sum up, I volunteer, Make me an admin and we'll see whats what :P
Friday, August 31 2001, 10:10AM
We surgeons would rather just
see yall rest and heal up else
the mages will start whining that
there are no mana surgeons.
If you ever did have a fool
not playing fair in pk then
why not just burn him on the
war board and have all clans
all players reject him?
Sides that pk surgeon would have
to accept the damaging party.
The pk healer can still hide in
a clan house and be AA to
heal only those that can get to
Saturday, September 01 2001, 03:41AM
Hey some of us actually dont have lives and would be willing
to help in any way shape or form.. just gotta ask the right
player. sigh point no life