well thats what i think anyway!
Nobody should have any problem getting at least one string if they actually try. There are quite a few venues for obtaining them, especially around holidays. I don't think it is necessary to do this with the current availability. Besides, sending a token to everyone that has been active in the last year could be difficult, especially since you can't send to people that have archived.
When you think about it, we oldbies have a HUGE advantage over newbies.
Here's a brief incomplete list.
- we know our way around
- we know where/how to get stuff (eq, words, skills, quests, cash, etc)
- we have at least one, and usually several, high level chars
- we can build new chars faster than newbies
- we have experience, knowledge and a range of strategies
- many oldbies (although not all) have old eq
- we have a circle of friends to help us get stuff
- we have a circle of friends to help us out if we get into trouble
This list is just some of the advantages that oldbies have over newbies, and I don't think it's a bad reward for our efforts over the years we've been coming here. Maybe we should be offering rewards to newbies instead?
oops, forgot one advantage .. we've realised skill trees is a myth ;)
I'll be crying myself to sleep tonight. ;)
I also agree with Tirzah that it should be newbies not oldbies who get rewarded--maybe when a char gets to say level 20, they get a reward of a token or something sweet.
The other thing about coupons, when looking at it from a "these are the holidays there will be lots of coupons floating around" point of view, is that many of them will be nothing more than prize strings or coupons that must be redeemed for a christmas related string.
and lets not forget that there werent any major coupons surges on Thanksgiving! Oh, and also realize that the holiday related events will undoubtedly take place during peak hours. there wont be anything going on late at night (by system time standards) for us insomniacs.
please dont think i am complaining, cause as i said i can easily money run for 2 days, and buy a coupon. but let's face it.... with the number of players on at any given time dropping by the day (and the number of imms online too) it seems legendmud it losing its lustre, and what better to make things more interesting than to give people a legitimate shot at a coupon! one they can earn without having to win a pk tourney or find a flag in the middle of nowhere, or even a coupon that they have to compete with someone to get, but a real chance to get their own coupon.
-my 2 cents
- The elf game has the tendency to run for longer than a day - I know it did at least 2 of the last 3 times it was run and will again for Christmas this year.
I'm confused about this part about the number of players on dropping... Invariably, no matter what time I am on, there are more people on than there used to be on average, especially around 7/8am system time. It may have dropped slightly in general, but in getting towards the end of the school semester, it's going to. If you compare July to October, the peaks are 61 and 54 respectively, but the average peak stayed the same, 45. Same general trend that's been around for years... But the slight drop in numbers certainly isn't significant - nor unexpected. In fact, just in the past few weeks, I've seen several players return that had been gone for some time - some, only a few months, others for over a year.
Second off, the Elf Game usually runs 48-60 hours. If you can't find a few hours to go elf chasing in that time interval, frankly, I won't cry my eyes out to hear about it. Not everyone lives here, true, but well.
Firstly if they can locate they know where to go at once, if they have been around enough.
Second if they have hunt they can run rather faster and farther than a low level player who will run out of mv.
There are those who do not know how to hunt, who stand little to no chance of finding one of these elves.
Simply my thoughts on the matter.
but i suppose the imms are too busy thinking of excuses rather than making something that the players would actually enjoy and appreciate!
There were immortals in and out, some giving out gifts through the day. Unfortunately for people like you, we do have families of our own to spend holidays with and can't be here all the time, waiting for you to log in and get a prize.
Everyone does have a realistic shot at getting a coupon. Play the xpgame. Once per character for a token, which gives you a shot at a coupon - or at least a string. Write an LT article. Again, token. Play the scheduled casino games. Variety of prizes there, and it isn't dependent on your connection speed or knowledge of the game or knowledge of outside subjects like a recall tag or flag hunt or trivia would be.
Level 50 + 25 million experience is available to everyone that wishes to take the time to do it and can get you TWO coupons.
Do you appreciate and enjoy new areas? Do you appreciate and enjoy new aspects of the code that go in? New items that get added? To say the immortal staff could care less about giving the players something to enjoy and appreciate is absurd. There wouldn't even be a game for you to complain about if we didn't.
As for the elf game... we don't have code to make mobs not locateable and not huntable. It is a heck of a lot more fair than it was the first couple times it was run. And it ran for about 47 hours this time plus the last massive distribution of them when I came back from my dinner to find the game had crashed.
Queen Nothing, Herra. PS Imms have lives too. and like to enjoy holidays even more.. I gotta say I was on quite a bit over Christmas from the 23rd to 25th and Cheyla was on almost the whole time I was so.....go climb on someone else's soap box.
oh and by the way the xp game only gives a token and out of the last 10 tokens that i have redeemed not one has been a real coupon. strings are not coupons...keep that in mind!
to be honest most new areas that i have seens in the last year or two are boring to be nice about it, and just as a personal note i dont enjoy exploring because i dont enjoy deathtraps.
Do you appreciate and enjoy new aspects of the code that go in? in a word. no. most of the code changes that have gone in recently have been geared directly to weakening the type of character that i like to play all in the name of "balance". again this is a personal preference, if you will, of mi New items that get added? again, no not really. im more concerned with trying to keep the items that i already have so that i dont have to re- arrange equipment all over again due to some massive "this eq makes the game unfair for losers like me" movement that has been going on for the last two years.
oh and just for the record....it is now new years eve at approximately 9 pm system and just as it was with thanksgiving, and christmas...... nothing is going on...no games no imms no nothing
just wanted you to know
In addition, I do not think that morts whine quite as much as imms seem to claim we do. In a pure text environment, our expressions and demeanor are easily lost, and it is often up to the reader to supply them. I would appreciate if you would give us the benefit of the doubt and not always assume we are whining. The 'demanding whiny spoiled brat' exists only in your head. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and not question why.
You don't think players whine? You are entitled to that misconception. Oddly enough the immortals are just as guilty as the players about nor communicating well. But the fact that the immortals are a limited staff with a limited amount of resources. We do what we can and when we are told we are lacking in what we are giving for free then we are being whined at. period.
first of all you are doing exactly what i was trying to get you not to do in my last post....automatically get defensive and start dismissing my idea simply because i refer to the imm staff as "the imms" and you obviously werent paying attention to anything after that! now stop, take a deep breath and relax and remember if you are thinking ab out what you wanna say, you are not listening to what i have to say (which is why this post keeps going on) so here goes....
imms do run games that is true! but during the hours that people like myself are around to play them, there arent any games being run. games are generally run (and no this isnt the case with all of them) during "the day meaning anywhere from 8 am system to 10 pm system. very rarely do any any games run from 11 pm system to 7 am system. and yes, i do realize that imms have work, school, lives, etc., but that still leaves people like me out in the cold.
next, i must agree with darla. coupons will always be special (that's why im not asking you to flood the game with them), especially when we get one from some achievement like a quest (one one-time-only quest is that too much to ask?) or attaining the final level.
also, what makes you think that i am a whining brat just because i am ASKING for something that doesnt exist at this time? especially considerin that if a coupon was given to players when they hit 50 starting tomorrow, i would not be eligible (with this character at least).
and lastly, you say Get some exp, as an oldbie you should be quite adept at that and redeem for the coupons if you want to earn them. sounds great! i think i'll try that...oh yeah one small problem... the xp awarded for mobs that i can solo...well, let's just say that it would take years to hit a redeem point....so next you will say group with people and go on runs like sl and pd....great! sounds awesome!...one problem during the times when i am logged on, there arent enough people on to for one of these power-xp groups. while you may see a sl and pd run forming every 5 minutes during the day, i see one forming once maybe twice a month in the middle of the night.
and the point of this post isnt to try to get "the immms" to satisfy my lust for coupons (truth is i have plenty of strings and if i want more i will simply money run seeing as how this is the only thing left that dex,str characters can do solo these days), but i feel that coupons are the single greatest aspect of legendmud...being able to personalize your eq set....and yet you act as if coupons should be the holy grail, rather than say hey, we WANT people to be able to enjoy this feature, that's why we put it in in the first place! we, the players, like coupons, we love coupons! the imms gave us that feature and we loved them for it. but now, (and forgive me for this particular metaphor) they seem more like the drug dealer who got us hooked and now wont sell to us because we are junkies! hehe not the greatest comparison i know, but hey...hehe
i mean, come on...first you give us the stuff and then scorn us because we ask for more, like we are insulting you.
whats up with that?
As for you not being around when games are run or when runs are happening, what can i say. thats how the timetable that people are here for. I do know that you should be able to solo for exp if you explore the different areas and try different tactics.
The biggest problem I have with this whole thread is that it appears that you think you deserve coupons. Oddly enough that goes back to the junkies analogy. You have some but you want more and because I say there are ways to get them you scorn me for pointing it out because its not easy enough for you. Coupons are ooc and shouldn't be the reward for any ingame quest.
If you play when there aren't many people or imms on there should be even MORE opportunity for mobkill exp and exploring as there should be less competition. I'm sorry if you aren't getting the maximum return per hp spent in exp but thats simply the consequence for your time playing. We can't and won't change the dynamic of our lives to compensate for it. I do know that there are people on in the early ours of the day. Perhaps organizing them would be a good use of your time.
We do have a few ways for people to get coupon/string type rewards during off-peak hours -- in particular, the xp game, the bug lotto, and articles for the LT. Being around during non-peak times also means less competition for mobs and equipment sellers, which means you can earn more money faster and purchase things, too.
Reaching level 50 is its own reward. You get a little boost in the hit table, you get a little more rent, and you join the ranks of those who have reached the top. You have the added freedom of having less reason to worry about your experience totals, and that can make it more fun to experiment and take risks.