Posted by Stygian on 10/24
This post follows half the dissucssion on Jen's post about tumble.
Firstly, it seems to me that the imms WANT you to RP. Letters in the
LT, descriptions, etc etc. But as in the case of Jen there, and in
several other cases that I have observed during my time here. If you do
RP then you are just shot down for one reason or another. I say up with
RP. RP on boards. SHOW the world you RP. If you get flack for it, well
lob it back at them, tell them they aint a good RPer or something.
It just seems to me that you try to do something that you enjoy, that
is encouraged etc. But no matter how you try, all you do is get shot down
for it. I think I have got words of encouragement on any characters RP
about.... oooh once. All the other times I just get yelled at for trying.
Now personally I think that is rather easy to understand in comparison to
someone like McDougan. But I dont see anyone complain about his RP.
In my experience it isnt enough to RP the character, you have to BE them.
But even that doesn't avoid all flack. Hell it probabaly gets more.
Just a few thoughts on something that you say you encourage, but all
the signs indicate you loathe it.
Monday, October 21 2002, 06:59PM
Absolutely, we do want people to enjoy rp if that's their thing.
We do ask, though, that when speaking to an immortal, or posting
on an ooc board such as this one, that you leave your ic-ness
at the door. It's rather difficult to sort thru the rp accents
and such to find the real question/concern that is, in fact,
an ooc question/concern.
So, yes, rp like you wish. But please, PLEASE when asking questions
of the staff, do so in normal text so that we can understand
your question and answer it in the best way possible.
Tuesday, October 22 2002, 03:24AM
I'm with Sandra. I love RP and I think there's too much OOCness on Legend.
But look around. You know where you're standing right now? Well, you're
not in the game at this moment. You're outside of it. You are your player.
Your character would not be standing in a lounge with the Beatles tending
bar, nor would he/she be writing posts about game mechanics.
Never EVER breaking character including in the ooc lounge doesn't make
you a good roleplayer. Save it for in-game, PLEASE.
Tuesday, October 22 2002, 04:58AM
There are pretty much no high-profile role-players who do not at
times take flak for their game style, as well as there are pretty
much no high-profile pkillers who haven't taken flak for theirs.
Both forms of gaming, and the combination thereof, are valid and
encouraged by the staff.
Indeed, stay in character at all times and you earn my respect
(yes, I'm one of those pesky role-players myself) -- EXCEPT on the
OOC boards and on the bug/idea/typo channels. An immortal may have
only so many hours available to fix or consider stuff; this time
should not be wasted trying to figure out what someone is meaning
to say in between the accents, the slurs, and the personalized
grammar (wasn't that a nice way of describing Jen's use of English?).
By all means, post on the IC boards in as obscure a dialect as
you like. Write LT rants in gibberish if that's your character's
way of approaching things. Do pretty much anything you want --
and gosh, we've had some pretty bizarre RPs over time. Just not
in the very few instances where we, the staff, are asking you
to deal as you the player, not you the character. Surely this
is not too much to ask of anyone.
Wednesday, October 23 2002, 08:11AM
A student, when corrected by a language teacher for using slang in
an inappropriate context, proceeds to accuse the teacher of loathing the
very language that's being taught.
One of things I really like about Legend is that "RP is Encouraged" isn't
just another empty sign put up there on the MotD for appearance's sake.
Or perhaps in the thought that just posting that will suddenly create an
environment conducive to roleplaying.
It's pretty obvious, at least to me, that far more than lip-service is
paid to roleplaying on Legend. I've been on muds where, being the woogly
person I am, I aliased my speech thingies - just like I sometimes do here -
- to imitate the effect that the "moods" command gives us on Legend. In
those other muds, (more than one), I was asked repeatedly by different
players if a "God limited your speech". That there might be any other
reason never occurred to them. All these muds had "RP is encouraged" or,
even, occasionally, "enforced" signs. Whatever that means.
On Legend, small touches like the moods command, the fact that your desc
can be as spammy as you like (witness the pkillers with...amazingspam for
descs - you wanna LOOK at me huh!), that you can have a customised
description, all add to an atmosphere that _encourages_ roleplay - even
by those who aren't interested in it.
Descs are neat. ;)
It's been repeatedly said (and I do agree) that you do not need a desc
to roleplay. However, OTHER people having descs (and not just look-descs)
adds greatly to an _atmosphere_ that encourages roleplay.
Being able to customise the description past "pale skin ice blue eyes and
black hair" generics which some muds offer add greatly to the "mythical"
feel of Legend as a whole.
That's to the "imms loathe RP" bit.
I disagree that being IC at all times is at all a bad thing. There
are simply many, many different ways to roleplay. Different styles and
perceptions. I, personally, prefer to be IC all the time, regardless
of whether my character's body happens to be OOC or IC at any given
However, I recognise that that's just one style among many, and besides,
it would be boring if there weren't many!
When it comes to posts on OOC boards though, I tend to alt to an
easily intelligible character (mostly). It's a matter of weighing
how much you want the IDEA behind your post to be heard - and how much you
want your _character_ to be heard. If someone chooses to express
concern about a gaming issue while staying in character - and that
character happens to be hard for many people to understand - that
someone obviously considers staying IC _as important as_ the issue
at hand - and therefore, probably shouldn't grumble if _other_ people
respond - You're incomprehensible! It's just the price paid for
maintaining an image.
From: That's my take on it, anyway.
If you really want to get the idea across though, use an alt that
is easily understandable to the best of your ability. It in no
way detracts from a post, especially a gaming one, if you point out that
an alt of mine with 666hit/dam really has PROBLEMS with this skill, this
weapon, this quest! Whatever!
With the possible exception of pk-related posts, no one really cares
_which_ alt of yours you're talking about as long as the information
you're providing makes sense. (I hope not anyway
So anyway. Want your posts regarding gaming matters to have some
response from _players_ other than huh? What the heck you talking about?
You nuts. Next post.
Make the posts intelligible.
Or, alternatively, make them so spammy
From: like this one, that no
one reads 'em. No negative comments that way!