Zandy's Mort Builder Plan
Posted by Charity on 07/29
Zandy posted this to welcome, but since imms are trying to lead the
way in using boards more wisely, we've moved it here for discussion.
I had cut and paste, Zandy didn't... please address comments to him.
Okay, here's the plan, I'm looking for feedback on it:
To help the immortals get a feel for how mortal building will work
AND to provide mortals a chance to get their feet wet without
investing huge amounts of research, blood, sweat, and tears. (all
of which go into areas in massive quantites) I've devised a neat-o
idea. We (the immortals) have decided (tenatively -- depending on
mortal response mainly) to offer mortals the opportunity to build
a small (25 to 50 room) area for april 1st. This area is allowed
to be based on pretty much anything, from the Simpson's to Star
Trek, but equipment must stay in spec. These areas will be
used for the April 1st mud, as well as pkill tourneys or something,
but will not be implimented into the mud as a whole.
The immortals will use this project as a gauge of how successful
a mortal builders plan would be... right now I just want some feedback on
this, as well as some mud-mails if anyone would like to jump on an
area idea now.
I will be heading up this project, the #1 rule is that you don't get to
bother other builders. A couple of times a week, I will schedule time
to be available, and to run the testmud for you if you wish.
Is this clear? Let me know if you have any questions, and feel
free to discuss at length here.
Friday, July 25, 08:29PM
I for one think it's a splendid idea. Count me in!
Friday, July 25, 11:08PM
Sounds like a great idea to me, been mudding for 4 years and this mud and
Arctic are the only two I've ever played that I would really like to build
for. Will there be a zone spec file put on the ftp site with maybe a coupl
templates of items/mobs/rooms to work off of? I've built for other muds,
but every mud is a bit different in their setup.
Saturday, July 26, 07:58PM
I think this is a great idea and you can DEFINATLY count me in:)
Sunday, July 27, 07:06AM
Sounds like a great idea. I'm putting my hand up...count me in!
While I'm here, I'd like to put forward a "concept" for the area.
The area would be something along the lines of "the world's greatest gig."
In keeping with the themes of Legend,
it could encompass bands and acts from all ages,
as well as modern muso's both living and dead.
Mobs could then include performers, agents, groupies,
paparrazi, movie stars, wannabes, and fans of all descriptions
punks, mods, goths, rockers, hillbillies etc etc etc
Quests could involve gaining "access all area" passes,
getting signed up to tour with the Beatles (for example)
getting ripped off by promoters,
convincing Buddy Holly not to get on THAT plane, making
Mama Cass a ham sandwich, scoring a date with James Dean/Marilyn Monroe
(insert name of favourite film star)...
Anyway, just an idea...I'll be happy with whatever is decided.
PS Sorry if the layout of the post is strange-it's my first ever append
Sunday, July 27, 09:39AM
Couple questions here. First if its gonna be for april 1st none of it will
count if you restore pfiles etc like you usually do right? So why would i
it have to be in spec? I don't know exactly what you guys have in mind, bu
but mort builders doing april fools seems kind of ironic. I would hope th
you wouldn't restrict things to silly april fools stuff, that most likely
would not be a permanent part of the mud.
I would like to hear a bit about how this is going to work, or what though
thoughts you have given it.
What segment of the mud do you feel will be interested in this?
Those doing it to learn, or for kicks? Or for those serious builders that
either don't want to be imms or feel they wouldn't be accepted.
Personally I think a lot of people interested would fall into the second
category. So I'm wondering if these "mort builders" will be doing grunt w
work, or will someone be able to submit a quality historical area, and hav
have it put in the mud if its up to par?
I guess its just I was never to impressed with backwards mud etc, it just
doesn't compare to the quality, and have had bad experiences with the last
couple of pfile backup type holidays.
Sunday, July 27, 09:59AM
Umm backwards mud being the theme they mud had one holiday
if i remember correctly.
Sunday, July 27, 11:50AM
This would be a way to test the waters for having a true mort builders
program. So it doesn't have theme restrictions, and yes, the areas would
only be in temporarily. But it would be a good way to learn. The in-spec
requirement is so that those who are serious about it learn the specific
restrictions under which imm builders have to work. So it's sort of like
a trial version of a for-real mort builders thing.
Sunday, July 27, 05:35PM
A bit more info... yes it's a trial version of a for-real mort builder
thing. Mort builders would be people who are players, working on
real Legend-themed areas. From what I've heard (and all this is
tentative pending the April Fool's stuff) you'd just have to make
sure your idea is appropriate for Legend, and isn't being worked on
by someone else. You'd have building docs, a designated building imm
or two who will work with the mort builders when you need help, and
that's it. No deadlines, no one nagging you to finish what you'd
promised, BUT your area couldn't be accepted for inclusion if it
didn't meet our item/mob stat requirements.
I expect people will want to mostly do silly themes since it is
April Fool's, and there's nothing wrong with that IMHO. Zandy and
I talked and he feels that you can do a historical area if you
want, but it cannot be the same area theme you would like to do as
a real area for the mud... obviously, so folks who are here for that
one day don't get an unfair preview of a coming real area. The
mortal builder program would be open to anyone interested (though
the level of support you get from Zandy or whomever might suffer
if there are too many people needing help at once) so doing something
'impressive' or in a Legendary theme doesn't alter your chances of
being a mort builder. And, frankly, good building is good building...
you might be able to get a few chuckles out of people with descs like
'Captain Kirk is here, deciding which alien babe to seduce' but the
best written April Fool's areas will stand out as best written,
whether their theme is historical, legendary, or just plain silly.
Monday, July 28, 02:06AM
well, lord knows how many times ive tried to aply for immort ship here.
Ive been immortred and build (and am in charge of the PR) on another mud
and would LOVE to build over here.
i've sent in one area idea and might think up more
but you could DEFINATELY count me in for this
i even have a theme allready for a "silly" area
just my little bit
Monday, July 28, 12:06PM
Okay, there are some implied things in zandy's original post that need
to be clarified.
The immorts do not all support the current status of the mort
builder project, of which the april fools project is the current proposal
for moving the project forward..
This post was not to say that such a thing as the mort builder project
is a definite at this point, I made it clear that it was still in the
planning stages, and it still is. This post was to foster discussions
about such a project and get feedback (as per zandy's first line) from
both imms and morts about their concerns.
I just wanted to make it clear that we are not currently ready to
proceed without something beneficial and mutually acceptable between
mortals and immorts, and if such a point cannot be reached through
discussion, the project will likely be mothballed.
If you have any questions regarding the mort builder plan, its current
status or any clarifications, feel free to contact me via e-mail
mudmail, or speak to me online. All other imms should direct your
questions to myself or the discussion board, or the builder board.
Some of the implications in zandy's post were a bit premature and
after talking to him, not intended. I want to make it very clear
that we're still in the discussion stage as to whether such a
project is feasible, and there is nothing set in stone as of
Tuesday, July 29, 12:13AM
I'm interested, if there's a list I'm probably on it already because Rufus
had started a program and a few people were going to begin corresponding
but it seemed to fall through. Count me in.
--FireStarter, who can definitely spell definitely
Tuesday, July 29, 09:58PM
Well, whatever the current status of this proposal, I'm interested
in it! This would be great practice for those of us considering real
building one day--whenever we can reach that magical 50 mark. If this
happens, are the mort builders going to work on one general theme,
or will everyone get to pick their own mini-theme?
Sounds like fun--I hope it works out!
Tuesday, July 29, 11:05PM
Apparently another slight misunderstanding. I am in full support
of the mort builder plan. Other immorts are not. we are currently
hashing out the immort position between the immortals.