Lecture Serie
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April 5th, 2001

Q & A Index

Topics Covered

More Pk Stuff like Gangwars?
Ideas for Socials?
All Guns One-handed?
Higher Bonus on 2Handed Weapons?
Handling of Comments on Imm Apps
Getting Coupons?
Magic Staves too Heavy?
Builder Board Updates?
Staggering Headbutt Rates?
Getting Colored Coupons?
Random Specials on Weapons?
Article on RENT in LT
Prize Machine
Gold Mine Quest Difficulties
Accept Delays in PKOK
Prize Machine Update?
Brainstorm for PK Games
Hide in Status?
Clan Membership levels
Accept Only 32 People?
Limit on # of PK Clans?

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More Pk Stuff like Gangwars?

LadyAce says, 'Okie, let's get this goin! Who has a question??'

LadyAce points at Tobias Veleda.

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'Any ideas on cool PK stuff like gangwars?'

'It'll be a few minutes before I post the code changes,' Ea! says.

'You mean after this week and all?' LadyAce says.

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with LadyAce.

'Gangwars was fun, though I dunno if it promoted pk, it was sweet,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'No plans yet, but I'm open to ideas.'

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with LadyAce.

'Some people did enable for the first time after trying it :),' LadyAce says to Mandarb.

'I think a hunt-the-rabbit deal might be interesting,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

'Or something,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

Tobias Veleda giggles.

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'Something where one person has to survive against two or three...or somethin.'

LadyAce giggles at Tobias Veleda.

LadyAce points at 'events'


Ideas for Socials?

'If I wanna submit an idea for a new social whats the best way to go about it?' Shard says. 'Just idea on the channel?'

LadyAce says, 'Idea is best for stuff like socials.'

'Allrighty,' Shard says.

'And try to include some sample messages,' Kaige says.

Sabu raises his hand.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Shard nods his agreement with Kaige.

Shard says, 'I shall.'

Kaige smiles at Shard.

LadyAce says, 'When someone gets a hankering for new socials or gets inspired by an idea, they often go thru the whole list to see what else is in there.'

LadyAce says, 'So even if it doesn't go in right away...'

'Well if this one was I'm sure it'd be used,' Shard says.

'Or so I'd think,' Shard says.

LadyAce nods solemnly.

'Those are the types that are most frequently implemented -- "ready" is a good example of that,' Ea! says.

Shard nods his agreement with Ea!.



Mandarb says, 'Whats the imm take on the discussion current taking place on the discussion board and.....'

'On that social thing, would be cool if you split up the socials into "categories" like love, sinister, stuff like that, and people could see a group of them instead of one giant list,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'Which discussion?'

A gruff historian nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'Wouldn't have to be a code change, just a help file,' Mandarb says.

'Yes breaking them up a bit would be nice,' Shard says.

'Like help love socials,' Mandarb says.

'The grouping sounds interesting for helpfiles yea,' LadyAce says.

'What discussion?' Sabu says pensively to Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'Or whatever.'

'The idea of putting everything that pkok took out of pk back in?' Kaige says. 'Only on top of pkok?'

LadyAce says, 'Put it on idea so we don't lose track of it?'

'That discussion?' Kaige says.

Mandarb says, 'The pkok discussion. It already has like 13 appends :P.'

'However you want to describe it,' Mandarb say to Kaige.

Mandarb chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'The pkok discussion...there's nothing new to say.'

Mandarb says, 'Though I think a huge point was made on that discussion.'

Mandarb says, 'The point of pkok was to lower harassment, I think pkok creates more.'

'We've seen tons fewer complaints,' LadyAce says.

'Well that's what it read like to me... put in imm intervention and supervision of 1 AA per player and redeem back out,' Kaige says.

Sabu is completely boggled.

'Maybe people just don't complain cuz theres nothing you'll do about it,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Thats what the admin department is for, to enforce harassment rules.'

'Maybe if they did it it wouldn't be a problem,' Mandarb says.

'But most harassment is never reported,' Ea! says to Mandarb.

'Darn crashes,' Mikhail says.

LadyAce says, 'Well, I don't think harassment is the sum total of admin's duties.'

'I've personally been harassed much more in pkok then ever in pk,' Mandarb says.

'I can see how harassment can come from pkok but overall ppl can now avoid most problem players in pk,' Sabu says pensively to Mandarb.

'And as far as that being "more organized community" I don't see how?' Kaige says. 'We didn't take out the pk clans, they're still the focus of pk community and organization.'

Mandarb says, 'I just don't bitch about it.'

Mandarb says to LadyAce, 'No, but enforcing the rules is, and harassment is against the rules.'

Mikhail says, 'Bah clans are useless now.'

'You people just don't get it, I think because you were never "serious' Pkillers,' Mandarb says.

'Nevermind, I 'll never be able to explain it to you,' Mandarb says.

Tobias Veleda grins evilly.

'How so?' Kaige says to Mikhail.

Mandarb says, 'Clans do very little.'

Lady Sandra says, 'Um, I was a 'serious' pkiller before you started playing here =P.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'But they're fun to be in.'

Mikhail says to Kaige, 'Clans have no organization, clan goals, clan wars, it is all individuals now.'

Mandarb says, 'I don't think they even really promote companionship anymore.'

'You were,' you say to Lady Sandra.

Mandarb says to Lady Sandra, 'The rest weren't.'

'It was the same before only the people did the oraganizing,' Kaige says to Mikhail.

'Do you not feel as though pk is something smaller then it once was,' Mandarb says to Lady Sandra.

Mandarb says to Lady Sandra, 'For the last month you've been telling me how boring pk is.'

'I've been having fun in pk, myself,' Tobias Veleda says playfully.

Tobias Veleda shrugs philosophically.

Mandarb says, 'The excitement is gone..'

'I do, yes,' Lady Sandra says to Mandarb. 'But I think that its that way because the players are lazy.'

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'And its been exciting ^_~.'

Mikhail says to Kaige, 'And hard to organize a clan war when everybody is reject all.'

Sabu nods his agreement with Lady Sandra.

Mandarb says, 'The imms were lazy when enforcing the rules, so pk had to be changed.'

A young handsome gangster says, clearly at ease, 'I think the excitement went away because you got tired of it.'

'Now the players are lazy and it isn't changed :P,' Mandarb says.

Soze nods his agreement with Tobias Veleda.

Mandarb says, 'I'm hardly tired of it.'

'We need cool weekly stuff like gangwars,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'I think that'd help revive PK some.'

'The sense of....community is the only word I can think of, is gone,' Mandarb says.

'That's not true,' Lady Sandra says to Mandarb. 'Believe me. I was one of the people sick of complaints about pk.'

Mikhail nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Sabu nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Ea! says to Mandarb, 'It's like putting the mob in jail -- it's very hard to do when the victims won't talk.'

Mandarb says, 'Well I'm a victim of this and I talk, so sue me :P.'

Gray1Guest says, 'Why didnt you guys just ignore complaints about pk, they got the whole you can be harrassed speech when they signed up :p.'

'A sense of community whether in clans or the player base is a fuction of leadership,' Sihr says thoughtfully. 'Bad clan, probably bad leadership.'

Mandarb says, 'I'm all for some of pkok's powers so to speak.'

'But I think it could be so much more,' Mandarb says.

'Because that line didn't work, guest,' LadyAce says.

'The main problem is there _is_ _no_ _commitment_,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'It didn't make people not feel harassed, it didn't make pk a useless feature for so many rpers....'

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'So you detriment the mud cause some idiots can't read?'

'Pft, worked for me, god, when i got harrassed i just harrassed back, whats with these whiners,' Gray1Guest says.

Kaige says, 'And also NO ONE should have to put up with being HARASSED.. not IC picked on.. I mean OOC haharassed and that's what we had too much of,'

A young handsome gangster says, clearly at ease, 'Ive only seen 4 people sign on my clan since ive been back in it.'

Mandarb says, 'Its kinda like the problem we had with disposable characters.'

'I don't consider it a detriment, I consider it an enhancement,' LadyAce says.

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'You would.'

'Theres no commitment, no responsibility, no consequences,' Mandarb says.

Sabu nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Shard says, amazed, 'We have Clans?'

Mandarb says, 'I still stand by the idea that players tended to police themselves.'

Mikhail giggles at Shard.

Ea! says, 'I'd *much* rather deal with people leaving the mud and telling their friends that it was boring pk-wise here than leaving the mud and telling their friends that they were harassed and the imms told them 'tough luck'.'

LadyAce says to Mikhail, 'Yeah, presumably...I wouldn't support putting in stuff that I thought was bad.'

Mandarb says, 'Anytime I "harassed" someone I was brought before the jury and tried.'

Kaige says to Mandarb, 'Then why aren't they now?'

Mandarb says, 'And usually convicted.'

'I say again, if they can't read...' Mikhail says to Ea!.

'We can't police ourselves!' Mandarb says.

'It's not a matter of people not reading,' LadyAce says.

Mandarb says, 'Everyone has infinate get out of jail free cards.'

'Its called reject all,' Mandarb says.

'Ever consider what the players think is bad?' Mikhail says to LadyAce. 'Not.'

'You could police yourself, but not many players,' Ea! says to Mandarb.

LadyAce says, 'It's a matter of people not wanting to be subject to every jerk that came along.'

Gray1Guest nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'Thats why you combine the 2!' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'For the dabbler whiners that can't take commiment, you give them pkok.'

'And for the rest of us you give us something like accept all but with more restrictions,' Mandarb says.

Sabu says thoughtfully, 'If i may suggest.. i think if someone is to accept an AA they have a really really longer tick timer before being able to reject.'

Kaige says, 'It seems to me that the hard core pk'ers aren't taking the committment either tho.'

Mandarb says, 'Fine.'

'But they were *right* they *were* being harassed and we weren't doing anything,' Ea! says to Mikhail. 'So they'd tell that to their friends.'

'Well, I'm not familiar with you so I can't cite examples you might've seen,' LadyAce says to Mikhail. 'But there were many forums on pk, and a lot of demand for pkok in those forums.'

'Don't make another "system"' Mandarb says. 'But make rejecting takes 2 weeks or something incredible.'

Mikhail says to Kaige, 'Not when some idiot can steal our stuff, then reject all and we have no recourse.'

Sabu says, thinking hard, 'I think in my eyes that will help the problem with ppl accepting and rejecting then also making AA's worth something knowing they have time to get ppl back.'

Mandarb says, 'Theres just no sense of responsibility.'

'A lot of people said that they thought pk was great, except for these 6 people, who ruined it for them,' LadyAce says to Mikhail.

Mandarb says, 'I can be as much of a fuckhead as I want and never pay the price.'

'I just going by what I see,' Mikhail says to LadyAce.

'Which I think is more harrassing then anything in the old system,' Mandarb says.

Lady Sandra says to Mikhail, 'They *can't* steal your stuff then reject you.'

Mandarb says, 'Haha, I killed you at 1 hp 14 times, then rejected you!'

Mandarb says, 'Tell me thats not harassment...'

'They sure can multi,' Mikhail says to Lady Sandra.

LadyAce says to Mikhail, 'Well, if what you see is that I don't pay any attention to what players want, you must be brand new here.'

'And yes they can, eq shifts work,' Mikhail says to Lady Sandra.

Mikhail rolls around laughing at LadyAce's joke.

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'That just too funny to respond to.'

Lady Sandra says to Mikhail, 'The person that's got your eq is accepting you until they get rid of it.'

Lady Sandra says, 'So was your comment about LA, I know who you are, and shame on you =P.'

Lady Sandra pokes Mikhail in the ribs.

'And when it goes to someone outta range?' Mikhail says to Lady Sandra.

'I miss the days where I could go....that guy is pk,' Mandarb says.

'I think we need more *s to make a particular style of pk work, but not for every style,' LadyAce says to Mandarb.

'I can type whos and know who's an rper day in and day out, but that isn't and probably never will be the same with pk ever again,' Mandarb says.

Lady Sandra says, 'I'd probably say that then perhaps steal should follow level limits as well, in regards to looted eq.'

Shard nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'Because the pk base is like water on a griddle, it bounces everywhere and is never the same.'

Sabu nods his agreement with Lady Sandra.

Mandarb says, 'Again, because of the lack of commitment.'

A young handsome gangster says, without tension, 'Y is it possible to steal from another player's corpse thats just not good.'

A young handsome gangster shudders.

Mandarb says, 'For rp purposes mostly.'

Sabu says thoughtfully to Mandarb, 'Promote aa then?'

Mandarb says, 'Looting isn't shit.'

Sabu says pensively to Mandarb, 'Reject those not aa?'

'Yeah,' Tobias Veleda says playfully. 'Bums like me who go AA and don't get jumped.'

Tobias Veleda giggles.

Sabu looks up into the sky and ponders.

Mandarb says, 'I haven't been looted but once in my 6 years here.'

'Well, I am in the camp that would be happy to eliminate steal except for zips or item type TREASURE,' LadyAce says. 'It's a big fear for people that generally doesn't pan out.'

'And I said he could keep the item or he'd have gave it back,' Mandarb says.

Sabu nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'But that is my opinion not 'the imms' opinion.'

'Looting is hardly a problem,' Mandarb says.

'So make another skill useless,' Mikhail says to LadyAce.

'Again, because of the mort pk police,' Mandarb says.

Sabu says pensively, 'I think steal should be for only treasure zip items.'

LadyAce says, 'I'd say it makes it useful.'

Mandarb says, 'Because retribution for stealing is harsh.'

Sabu says thoughtfully, 'Stealing can get really bad in pk.'

'It means that looting is no longer a touchstone for everyone to perma you,' LadyAce says.

'Well for thos items and gold too right?' a young handsome gangster says, clearly at ease.

Mandarb says, 'I just feel like pk is anarchy.'

'There are very very few rules,' Mandarb says.

'It's not even in the realm of possibility right now, stealing makes people way too nuts,' LadyAce says.

'And people exploit anyone's they can find,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'Yeah, gold should be on the list with zip and TREASURE.'

A young handsome gangster nods solemnly.

'Get rid of looting if you have to, but i still think its a waste of code,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Who even learns steal anymore :P.'

'Mobs ALWAYS catch you, its worthless,' Mandarb says.

'Well, maybe they would if they could do it without being ruined for it...is my thought,' LadyAce says to you. 'Dunno for sure.'

'If your saying its meerly a superstition so to speak that looting is rampent and thats why people don't pk and that by removing this fear more will do it, I'm all for it,' Mandarb says. 'But I think in the practical sense its worthless cuz noone ste.'

LadyAce says, 'At any rate, I don't think we'll get anywhere on this one...Sabu had his hand up earlier.'


All Guns One-handed?

'First, rumor has it guns may become one handed.. is this a possibility?' Sabu says thoughtfully.

LadyAce says, 'It's nothing I've heard about.'


Higher Bonus on 2Handed Weapons?

Sabu says thoughtfully, 'Ok second, a very discussed opinion.. can we please make 2handed items weapons etc more then net 5 stats?'

Mandarb says, 'Hehe, I brought that up at our stupid club meeting last week.'

Mandarb says, 'That meeting was funny.'

'Be it outrageous 10 stat -3 stat - 2 stat for a 5 stat or higher than net 5..' Sabu says pensively.

LadyAce says, 'Far as i know, the 2-handed rules are already changed around to allow more stats to go with the more slots?'

LadyAce tugs on Lady Sandra's sleeve imploringly.

Sabu says pensively, 'Oh?'

Mandarb says, 'I think 2 handed weapons should be able to have like 7 or 8 stat points.'

Sabu beams delightedly.

Zlodej nods solemnly.

'Um, no,' Lady Sandra says to LadyAce. 'We never finished that discussion, actually.'

Mandarb says, 'Their has to be some disadvantage, but you lose some ac, 2 handed weapons are usually attrocious rent, etc.'

Sabu says pensively, 'Well finish!'

Sabu nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

'Or one handed weapons shouldn't be able to be more than +3,' Ea! says to Mandarb.

Ea! ducks to the ground.

'Oh, ok,' LadyAce says to Lady Sandra. 'Thought that balance points ended it or somethin.'

Mandarb grins evilly at Ea!.

Sabu says, thinking hard, to Ea!, 'Meanie!'

Sabu giggles.

LadyAce says, 'Ok, then the real answer is 'that topic is still under discussion!'.'

LadyAce chuckles to herself at something that strikes her funny but no one else.

Mandarb says, 'Wow, a behind the scenes look.'

'Hmm can you keep us posted on discussion about more stats for 2hand?' Sabu says pensively.


Handling of Comments on Imm Apps

'I would like to know why this item has been Ignored by the Imm staff ? ! ?' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Dev Sibwarra pokes News Board post 19 and encourages everyone to read it.

Mandarb raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

'Thats long,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Just say the item.'

'It went up today and you think it's being ignored?' LadyAce says.

A sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring, 'God.'

'No, the letter was sent weeks ago and ignored,' Dev Sibwarra says humbly to LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'I think that we'll need at least a few days before we've all even seen it, much less considered whatever it says.'

'Furthermore, it was emailed to Kaige and Zandy and further ignored,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility.

LadyAce says, 'Well, it wasn't sent to me I don't think?'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'Oh, is it a comment on an imm?'

LadyAce says, 'Oh, then it is confidential.'

Shard says to Dev Sibwarra, 'Maybe your opinion isn't shared by everyone?'

'It is a comment on the process FAILING,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'The comments were sent to the entire godlist for consideration before voting.'

Sabu says thoughtfully to Dev Sibwarra, 'I sent in mail about something over a month ago.. i dont consider it being ignored more of they are busy admins.'

'I know that, I mean it wasn't sent to me directly,' LadyAce says to Kaige.

Ea! says, 'Like all such notes, it was taken under consideration by the immortal staff before voting.'

Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to Ea!, 'That is bull.'

Mikhail says, 'Sure it was.'

Kaige can't force people to agree with you.

Shard nods his agreement with Kaige.

'If it ws considreed, someone would have followed up and asked me about it,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility.

'I can't force them to even agree with me so..' Kaige says.

Kaige giggles.

Adolph comforts Kaige.

Mandarb says, 'Yes you can.'

Sabu snickers at Kaige nastily.

'Or they just may have considered it,' Tobias

Veleda says, with a playful tone, to Dev Sibwarra.

'This is a dictatorship, and your the head dick :P,' Mandarb says.

Tobias Veleda shrugs in response to Dev Sibwarra's words.

'And you know this how?' Lady Sandra says to Dev Sibwarra. 'I think that you prove your childishness by posting this on the news board, whining like some little brat because he didn't get his way.'

Kaige says to Dev Sibwarra, 'No one raised any questions or concerns over it.'

'I am basically saying this Imm applicant harassed me and now she will be deciding what harassment is?' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility.

Sabu laughs at Mandarb.

Mandarb cackles gleefully.

'Spammy,' Zlodej says whiningly.

'Consideration does not necessarily mean we come back and talk to you about your comment,' LadyAce says. 'We simply read it and included it in our pile of information.'

Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to Lady Sandra, 'You Immortals are irrisponsible by not following up on this.'

'Zandy himself said to a friend of mine "I will be keeping a close eye on Haley"' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Mikhail says to Dev Sibwarra, 'Imm is a we met you only club anyway, kiss ass and get in.'

LadyAce says, 'A formal complaint about someone is a different thing than an imm comment.'

Sabu says, thinking hard, to Dev Sibwarra, 'Dude chill out man.'

'You know what happens when you assume...' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Dev Sibwarra.

Shard snickers softly.

'They are busy,' Mandarb says.

Lady Sandra says to Dev Sibwarra, 'You don't want to get me started.'

'Why would you Imm someone you felt you Needed to keep an eye on?' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Tobias Veleda ducks to the ground.

Mandarb says, 'Besides, you said everything you thought in the letter, whats the point of following up, you weren't going to say anything new.'

A sadistic mage says callously, 'Holy god.'

Sabu says thoughtfully to Dev Sibwarra, 'Dude chill man.'

'Filing a complaint, you will get a response of some sort, and should ask if you didn't,' LadyAce says.

'They arent out to get ya or something,' Sabu says thoughtfully to Dev Sibwarra.

Kaige says to Dev Sibwarra, 'We keep a close eye on everyone at first so we're sure they're doing a good job.'

'Not true, I was going to give proof, witnesses,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to Mandarb.

LadyAce says, 'Filing a comment, we'll just consider it a comment.'

Lady Sandra says to Mikhail, 'That just pissed me off.'

Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to Kaige, 'At first, Haley will kiss ass and make sure everyone loves her, then she will abuse her power later.'

'I.e,' Mikhail says to LadyAce. 'You ignore it?'

Soze says nastily, sneering, 'How come everyone hate the newly voted in imm?? rejoice!! you have more people to serve you.'

'I thought you didn't want haley to know about this?' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Dev Sibwarra. '^^;.'

'Haley is a nice gal.. we all have our bad days even you,' Sabu says thoughtfully to Dev Sibwarra.

Sihr becomes boggled at the wild victim mentality requirement for government on a mud -> game.

Sabu tickles Dev Sibwarra.

'I don't understand this giant "I hate Haley" obsession either,' Mandarb says.

'Reading a comment and taking it into consideration when you vote is not the same as ignoring, no,' LadyAce says to Mikhail.

Dev Sibwarra says humbly to Sabu, 'I have my bad days and they are terrible, why do you think i didnt apply?'

'Believe it or not.. it's worse elsewhere,' Kaige says to Sihr.

'Haley is cool,' Adolph says.

'I don't know haley, I just don't believe in the admin department,' Mandarb says.

Sihr nods his agreement with Kaige.

Dev Sibwarra says humbly to LadyAce, 'Not following up on an accusation of harassment by a potential Admin Imm is just lazy and irresponsible.'

Chocorua says to Mandarb, 'Thanks.'

'God it makes me sick, but i'm gonna have to agree with Sibwarra :P ive been with her on a few runs, shes moody and overreactive, alot, not just once or twice,' a sadistic mage says callously.

Mandarb says, 'Your worthless and you know it choc.'

Dev Sibwarra thanks a sadistic mage heartily.

Adolph says, 'I hope she does well, and think she must have been a hell of an applicant to go straight into admin.'

Adolph shrugs helplessly.

'If you have a complaint about how she discharges her duties, you should file it with Zandy or Kaige,' LadyAce says.

'You warned me for abusing your afk buffer, how worthless can you be :P,' Mandarb says.

'Ok,' LadyAce says. 'Stop. This will not be a forum for Mandarb to rant about the admin dept.'

Sabu snickers at you nastily.

Mandarb cackles gleefully.

'Damn,' a sadistic mage says callously.

Adolph snickers softly.

'Choc egged me on :P,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'You rip them on chat more than enough, and you will stop now.'

Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to LadyAce, 'I do not feel comfortable playing here knowing she has powers that give her the ability to affect my game play more directly than she already has.' Sihr thanks LadyAce heartily.

'This is kinda stupid,' Zlodej says whiningly. 'If she will be doing bad she will be not imm for long. give it try and see.'

Shard says to Dev Sibwarra, 'Please close the door on your way out.'

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with Zlodej.

Mandarb says, 'Imms don't get demoted zlodej, hehe.'

Sihr nods his agreement with Zlodej.

Adolph demands the return of Satsu as head admin!

'Have a nice life elsewhere then,' Chocorua says to Dev Sibwarra.

Chocorua shrugs helplessly.

'Oh, yes they do,' Lady Sandra says to Mandarb.

'Yeah,' Tobias Veleda says playfully. 'If you don't like it, duck under a rock until she leaves.'

'Haley has harassed me as a mortal and practically made me leave because it was too sad to be here,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

'Thats exactly the attitude I'm talking about,' Mandarb says.

Sabu says, thinking hard, to Dev Sibwarra, 'Dude its not like since she is an imm now she is has the right to find anything and everything wrong with you and punish you for it.'

Mandarb says, 'An imm can be that rude to someone, can tell peole to fuck off, do all kinds of things, and still be an imm.'

'She ruined my reputataion and got me kicked out of my clan with her lies,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

'Not that I blame you,' you say.

Mikhail says, 'AND THERE IT IS, with that attitude, the imms will be caretakers of the biggest empty hotel on the net.'

Chocorua says to Mandarb, 'Why would i fight to keep someone who wants to leave?'

'Its hard to find "good" volunteers,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Your fighting to push someone away who is unhappy.'

Mandarb says, 'Its not the same thing.'

'Cause your job is to provide a place players want to play,' Mikhail says to Chocorua.

Gold1Guest nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Lady Sandra says, 'Lemme explain something.'

'Now that she is an Imm her little sweet me game will carry even more weight with people and my play could be affected, it already has been,' Dev Sibwarra says humbly to Sabu.

'Just because someone does something wrong doesn't mean they can't be an immortal, sib,' Adolph says.

'If imms were paid it'd be easier to demote/fire,' Mandarb says.

'You can't possibly expect people to sit back and listen to whining, and complaints about 'You do nothing!' Lady Sandra says. 'You suck!', and not get fed up enough to respond with 'leave'. At *least* that's all they're saying.'

'Imms have to REALLY make a big mistake though, in my experiences, to get in much trouble,' Mandarb says.

Adolph says, 'I think the whole topic is childish, lets move on.'

Chocorua says to Mikhail, 'Good point and encouraging someone to stay who would rather drag someone's name through the mud than try more than once to talk to the imms about it is foolish.'

'So just because she is an imm its going to ruin your rep?' Sabu says, thinking hard, to Dev Sibwarra. 'How about you're ruining it right now yourself.'

'I remember a group of Imms that got Immed and then taken out with little or no explanation,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

A young handsome gangster says, clearly relaxed, 'I wonder how much weed it would take for me to understand every heres point of view.'

Mandarb says, 'Sibwarra doesn't say he doesn't do anything.'

A young handsome gangster giggles.

'Sibwarra is mad about some imm application and choc told him to leave,' Mandarb says.

'Well, that was directed at you actually,' Lady Sandra says to Mandarb.

'I didn,' Chocorua says.

'Hehe, if choc told me to leave I'd laugh my ass off,' Mandarb says.

'I tried to talk to Dominic, he ignored me, i talked to Zandy, he said mail Kaige, they both ignored me,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to Chocorua.

Adolph nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'Then I'd tell him to leave.'

'Choc is rude at times, so what,' Adolph says.

'I will immort and make this mud not in english but in czech, then you can complain,' Zlodej says in a whiny voice.

Adolph says, 'I'd be rude as hell too.'

Lady Sandra giggles at Zlodej.

Chocorua didn't ask anyone to leave.

Mikhail says, 'Choc is rude as hell, but I like him.'

Mikhail ruffles Chocorua's hair playfully.

Sabu snickers softly.

Tobias Veleda says playfully to Zlodej, 'I wouldn't like that ^^;.'

'If you have a harassment complaint to file, you should file it as such,' LadyAce says to Dev Sibwarra. 'I don't think that we read it as a report but rather saying that you had personal issues.'

'Choc is cool but strict which is nice,' Sabu says, thinking hard.

Mandarb says, ''Have a nice life elsewhere then,' Chocorua says to Dev Sibwarra.'

'And he is FAIR, something not often seen,' Mikhail says to Sabu.

'Thats an invitation to make a choice,' Chocorua says to Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'Thats the same thing as don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.'

'So what are you going to do about this?' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to Kaige. 'Will you talk more about it with me? will you talk to others who have seen her behavior.'

Sabu nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Shard says to Mandarb, 'Well technically thats not asking him to leave :P.'

'He didn't need an invitation to make a choice,' Mandarb says.

'You said you have seen it,' Dev Sibwarra says humbly to a sadistic mage.

Lady Sandra says, 'I try not to be, but damn people, there's only so much a person can take before they just want to see how fast they can slay 10 people.'

'Excuse me, but this really shouldn't be a Q&A topic, imo,' Adolph says.

Mandarb says, 'I can make a choice without your permission, believe it or not.'

Mandarb says, 'As can sibwarra.'

Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to Adolph, 'Oh, not here then where?'

'Oho, Bigger, Longer & Uncut,' Zlodej says in a whiny voice.

'More of a lynch mob topic,' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Adolph.

Sabu snickers at Lady Sandra nastily.

Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, 'The Imm staff has already swept this under the carpet.'

Chocorua says to Lady Sandra, 'Pretty fast.'

'Yea, this is a madhouse,' Mandarb says.

Adolph says to Dev Sibwarra, 'With imms, not morts.'

Lady Sandra says to Chocorua, 'Yea, I end up using mobs ;).'

'Its like the us house of represenitives,' Mandarb says.

'Whee,' Mandarb says.

'Do you just like to stir up trouble?' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Dev Sibwarra. '*boggle*.'

Ea! says to Dev Sibwarra, 'All comments players make about imm applicants are kept confidential.'

'What I got was the requested "Comments on applicants" that had been posted.' Kaige says. 'If you wanted it looked into additionally as a harassment charge then it should have been stated so. Because one comment out of the stack that was.'

Adolph says to Dev Sibwarra, 'It's thier mud, deal or leave.'

'They regarded it as a comment because you filed it so, make sure you file it as a complaint,' Sabu says, thinking hard, to Dev Sibwarra.

Mandarb says, 'Its not their mud, its kaiges mud.'

Dev Sibwarra says humbly, 'the Mortals of this MUD get disdain from the Imm staff, it must stop.'

Mikhail says to Adolph, 'And when everyone leaves?'

'But obviously now they think its a complaint so set a time and discuss it,' Sabu says pensively to Dev Sibwarra.

'Oh please, grow up,' Shard says to Dev Sibwarra.

'Let's be a little more orderly, guys,' LadyAce says.

'Oh cut it out already,' Lady Sandra says to Dev Sibwarra.

'And she's chosen them to run it,' Adolph says to Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'Possibly you could say its ea/ladyace's mud since they house it, I dunno :).'

'You make that point by being rude and demanding ... good luck on that point,' Chocorua says to Dev Sibwarra.

Sabu nods his agreement with Chocorua.

Gold1Guest nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'So this is going to be blown over?' Dev Sibwarra says humbly to Chocorua.

'Hehe, choc giving advice on not being rude...' Mandarb says.

'I think that the question has been asked and answered,' LadyAce says. 'Here on out, let's take the discussion to a different forum.'

Sabu snickers at Mandarb nastily.

Mandarb says, 'Thats like me giving advice on not being rude.'

'I used to think like you, act like you, ask sandra.. in the end, it aint worth it, trust me,' Adolph says to Dev Sibwarra.

'Its been 40 minutes, wheres our changes :P,' Mandarb says to Ea!.

Sabu snickers softly.

Mandarb says to Ea!, 'That'll change the subject!'

Mikhail just sees more and more of the adult players leaving, and the imms are running a day care for high school kids.

'Once again, the Immortals are going to sweep this under the carpet,' Dev Sibwarra says humbly.

'You have no idea how hard it is for me to get a point taken seriously because of how rude i am at times,' Chocorua says to Mandarb.

Ea! says to Mandarb, 'I'm trying to get something in, but I'm stuck on it.'

'There's no sweeping, it's simply not an appropriate forum, and you know that,' LadyAce says to Dev Sibwarra.

'Oh I know,' Mandarb says to Chocorua.

'I don't think asking you to request a time to talk about it is sweeping it,' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Dev Sibwarra. 'Last time I checked, that was addressing it.'

'Listen your so upset you dont see the obvious.. they know its a complaint now.. just remind them with a mudmail get a date time etc meeting and talk with em then,' Sabu says thoughtfully to Dev Sibwarra.

'I tried the appropriate forum and was ignored,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to LadyAce.

Mandarb says, 'I'm not sure why your mad sibwarra, honestly.'

'Just because you don't like her doesn't mean she won't get in,' Mandarb says.

Dev Sibwarra says very humbly, 'I sent in a comment as asked and was ignored.'

Mandarb says, 'I don't like choc, that doesn't make them demote him to level 50.'

LadyAce says to Dev Sibwarra, 'Ignoring and simply not agreeing are much different things.'

'I make comments on boards and through tells all the time,' Mandarb says.

'Your not ignored, they just don't agree,' Mandarb says.

'You sent a comment to Kaige on an applicant,' Lady Sandra says. 'Didn't look like a harrassment complaint to any of us apparently, since it didn't bring up any conversation on it.'

'Because it is akin to letting a burglar hold the keys to a jewelry store,' Gold1Guest says to Mandarb.

'Comments are comments right?' Sabu says pensively to Dev Sibwarra. 'Comments are looked at and discussed.. but not with the person sending in the comment.'

'You were NOT ignored,' Kaige says to Dev Sibwarra. 'Ignored would have been me not passing it on to the other immorts for consideration at all.'

'Maybe you should speak more plainly in your notes,' Lady Sandra says.

'That was a pretty heavy note I wrote, that deserves at least a reply,' Dev Sibwarra says humbly to LadyAce.

'It's your turn to ask your question,' LadyAce says to a young handsome gangster.

'You should ahve asked for a reply then,' Mandarb says.

'What proof do I have that it was passed on?' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to Kaige. 'I am a mortal.'

'It was passed on,' LadyAce says to Dev Sibwarra. 'Ask any imm.'

'You said yourself you didnt see it,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'I said it wasn't sent to me personally by you.'

'The fact that all the other immortals here know what note/comments I'm talking about?' Kaige says to Dev Sibwarra.

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

'I don't see the same need to reply personally to a comment I am simply forwarded along with the others,' LadyAce says.

LadyAce says to Sabu, 'No, it went to all of us.'

Lady Sandra says to Sabu, 'Nah we all saw it.'

Lady Sandra shrugs helplessly.

Sabu says, thinking hard, 'Ooh sorry hehe.'

Sabu blushes bright red.

Sabu just dont like to see a decent guy get upset

Chocorua says to Mandarb, 'sorry for muddying that up ... he makes me so angry.'


Getting Coupons?

A young handsome gangster says, clearly relaxed, 'This might not start a bunch of conversation like these other topics have and i know youll miss bein ranted and raved at for a second but in all my times being here ive only had one chance to get a coupon and i was wondering how coupons are recieved other then buying them.'

'Games are pretty scarce these days,' Mandarb says.

'Though a token rain happened today,' Mandarb says.

Shard says, 'WE need flag hunts!'

'Hehe, poor lowbie,' Mandarb says.

'Whats your name description boy asking about coupons,' Mandarb says

'My bad,' Tarquin says, without tension.

'Let's get to what's-his-name's question ^_~,' Tobias Veleda says playfully.

Tobias Veleda giggles.

Mandarb says, 'I told him about coupons through tells :P.'

'You can write lt articles, or win the bug lotto also,' Lady Sandra says to Tarquin.

'I never win bug lottos!' Sabu says pensively.

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, to Tarquin, 'And token rain.'

LadyAce says, 'Other ways would be in games or events generally.'

'Whats an lt article?' Tarquin says, clearly relaxed, to Lady Sandra.

'I win bug lotto's lots,' Adolph says. ':p.'

'I won my second ever flag hunt this year!' Sabu says, thinking hard.

Sabu cheers for himself since no one else has.

Mandarb says, 'Legendary Times.'

Lady Sandra says to Tarquin, 'Do you know what the LT is?'

'Help LT :),' LadyAce says to Tarquin.

'Gotta report em to win!' Adolph says.

Mandarb says, 'Its legends newspaper.'

Mandarb says, 'It hasn't been put out in awhile but la has been super busy.'

Tarquin nods solemnly.

Lady Sandra nods her agreement with Mandarb.

Mikhail says, 'Haven't seen an LT in weeks.'

Mandarb says, 'You get a token though, not a coupon.'

Tarquin nods solemnly.

'Though you CAN win a coupon with a token :P,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'Should go out this weekend, hasn't been one in weeks you're right.'

Tarquin says, clearly relaxed, 'Id be happy with a token.'

Mandarb says, 'There was the one when the ip was changed :).'

LadyAce says, 'Yeah, well, it was a little abbreviated :).'

Mandarb says, 'Its alright la, the lt is just a bunch of static rp, hehe.'

Shard grins evilly.

Mandarb says, 'Kinda like those short story books you can buy.'

Sabu spanks Mandarb playfully. OUCH!

'I miss sandra's pk corner :p,' Adolph says.

'Bah, it is the most rp these days :),' Mikhail says to Mandarb.

'I miss the pk corner,' Mandarb says.

Tarquin thanks LadyAce heartily.

'Hey, there's code update stuff in there too!' LadyAce says.

Tarquin thanks Lady Sandra heartily.

Tarquin thanks Mandarb heartily.

Adolph pokes Lady Sandra in the ribs.

Tarquin waves happily.

'My favorite lt is still the one rufus did about eq rent,' Mandarb says.

Tarquin returns to being In Character. Lady Sandra says, 'Ya'll stopped sending me stuff!'

'I was so amazed rufus would tell us that stuff,' Mandarb says.

Shard nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'He'll forever be one of my favorite imms for it,' Mandarb says.

Adolph nods solemnly.

Sabu giggles.

Shard says, 'Try and find it one the website now.'

'Rufus rocks regardless,' Adolph says.

Mandarb says, 'He showed he cared enough to explain intricate rules that we didn't understand, I liked that.'

'I'll forever know preserve makes an item like half its rent, align is super good too :P,' Mandarb says.

Adolph says, 'He gets irritated and throws fits, but he's cool :p.'


Magic Staves too Heavy?

'Is it just me, or are all staffs like 15k rent, and about 40kg :P everytime i wanna use one i gotta ditch a buncha eq and use a milky etc, can they be lighter and with less rent?' a sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring.

'That damn gust wand is terrible,' a sadistic mage says callously.

Mandarb says, 'Wands are heavy/renty so you can't use them constantly.'

Sabu nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'I'm happy they are renty and heavy,' Mandarb says.

'You obviously weren't here during tulsi days :P,' Mandarb says.

Sabu says thoughtfully, 'Ooh greater summons hps fixed!'

A sadistic mage says callously, 'Nope.'

Sabu snickers at Tobias Veleda nastily.

'And when i need to use one in a fight, its not worth it, since i gotta drop my gun bow and katar,' a sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring.

A sadistic mage rolls his eyes heavenward.

Mandarb says, 'Tulsi's are the perfect example of what happens when low weight, fairly low rent, incredibly useful "wands" are introduced.'

'You're right that there are a lot of spendy ones...all the types of details people want on weapons end up being expensive,' LadyAce says to a sadistic mage.

Mandarb says to LadyAce, 'He's talking wands.'

'OH,' LadyAce says.

LadyAce looks up into the sky and ponders.

Mandarb says, 'Like the gust of wind wand.'

Mandarb says, 'I'm not sure if thats renty enough :P.'

A sadistic mage says callously, 'Or the scatter wand.'

'There's a gust wand?' Adolph says. ':p.'

'Consider how much destruction it can cause for free!' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'I see staffs and I think con weapon.'

'Gust wand is 8k or more i think,' a sadistic mage says callously.

'They are renty but they are getting real heavy..' Sabu says pensively.

'Tritoch...' Mandarb says, 'You can cast gust.'

'Lightning wand was 3k or 4k,' Tobias Veleda says playfully. 'And really few charges.'

'I dont mind the rent but its nasty when you cant even hold one =p,' Sabu says thoughtfully.

A sadistic mage says callously, 'Pft, i also can't use a gun :P you know what i mean, my damn sniper.'

Mandarb says, 'Your sniper doesn't need to gust :).'

LadyAce says, 'Wands and staves are renty because they give you access to a powerful range of spells without spending all those pracs and such.'

'There's only so cheap we can make them before it is easier to collect wands than be a mage,' LadyAce says.

'Like tulsi's and blind,' Mandarb says.

'We have to keep the pain of magedom worth it,' LadyAce says.

Mandarb shudders.

Mandarb says, 'At least wands have lag now.'

'Rent i dont mind, i just drop my 500 vials, but how about lowering the weight and rasing rent, or lowering charges or something,' a sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring.

'Well, if I were you, I'd put your comments in on idea on wands that you think are too heavy,' LadyAce says.

A sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring, 'Sweet accept lag.'

'You fixed greater summons, I knew they sucked,' Mandarb says.

'No more accept/bash crap,' a sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring.

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with a sadistic mage.

Mandarb says, 'I can still so abuse pkok :P.'

'I'm not sure what makes them heavy in particular, people might not mind changing them,' LadyAce says.

'Walling people off with all kinds of walls then accepting them,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Thats always completely evil.'

A sadistic mage glares icily at Mandarb.

'Then you're stuck and they firestorm ya to death?' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Mandarb.

A sadistic mage says callously, 'You and those damn walls.'

'They can walk through the walls into your trap before you accept,' Mandarb says.

Adolph growls about walls.


Builder Board Updates?

'Why isn't the builder board updated much?' Tobias Veleda says playfully.

'It'd be cool if we could get biweekly updates on what's goin on and stuff,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

Lady Sandra says, 'Haven't got any new areas to update it with.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, to Lady Sandra, 'Progress reports ^_~.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'Makes us anticipate it more.'

'Beyond what gets posted on fridays? ,' Kaige says to Tobias Veleda.

Mandarb says, 'Any area fixes this week sandra?'

Kaige says, 'Lots.'

Mandarb says, 'I think sandra does a good job with the area updates on the board.'

'Yea, but I haven't gathered them all yet,' Lady Sandra says.

Sabu says thoughtfully, 'Ok back =p.'

Adolph nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Lady Sandra says, 'Well, Kaige actually does the gathering lately.'

Tobias Veleda says playfully to Kaige, 'Friday?'

Lady Sandra beams at Kaige delightedly.

LadyAce says, 'The thing with areas that haven't gone in is...who knows if what we write will go in?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Tobias Veleda.

Mandarb says, 'Even though most are pretty mundane.'

'No, not the area updates...' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Kaige.

'I might design all kinds of stuff and get it rejected by the reviewers,' LadyAce says.

Adolph says, 'Sandra is spiffy, I like her so much more now that she aint admin :p.'

Tobias Veleda says playfully to Kaige, 'I mean stuff like how the new areas are doin and stuff.'

Kaige says to Tobias Veleda, 'You want area in progress updates.'

Kaige nods solemnly.

'Plus I don't want to give out all the neat new surprises,' LadyAce says.

Lady Sandra giggles at Adolph.

'Sandra was a great admin, I wish she hadn't got sick of it,' Mandarb says.

'Those are harder to get,' Kaige says.

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with Kaige.

'Never!' Lady Sandra says.

'So it's not easy to give progress reports on ideas for new areas on boards,' LadyAce says.

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'We could give feedback, then, too.'

A sadistic mage nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'I aint saying she wasn't good at it :p,' Adolph says to Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'I go to ladyace or sandra before I go to an admin.'

LadyAce shakes her head.

'I think area progress could be posted in the LT,' Sabu says, thinking hard.

Sabu shrugs helplessly.

'What admin? ' Adolph says to Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'It is on occasion.'

'Makes me wanna read it more =p,' Sabu says pensively.

Mandarb says, 'They do the imm update.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Sabu's head.

Sabu nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'All the imms say what they've been doing,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says to Sabu, 'Well, like I said...not easy to provide.'

'Not sure I've seen that in awhile though,' Mandarb says.

Sabu nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sabu says, thinking hard, 'Very true.'

'If they spend too much time blabbing about how the area is coming, thats less time to acually build it tho :p,' a sadistic mage says callously.

'When I have something like 'suchandsuch area is in review', usually I do post it somewhere, but well, I don't have anything like that atm ;),' Lady Sandra says.

Dev Sibwarra wants to ask a new question, unrelated to the last

A gruff historian chuckles politely.

Mandarb cheers for Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'The more general imm update ended up being cut out actually.'

'We have enough areas :P,' Mandarb says.

'Not hardly,' Mikhail says to Mandarb.

LadyAce says, 'I got way way too many complaints about it, I get tired of the abuse after a while :P.'

'I want matrix to make his area,' Sabu says, thinking hard, to Mandarb.

Sabu grumbles.

'We have areas I've never been to now,' Adolph says.

'We need more cool areas like romania,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'That was a great new area....I still love it.'

'You guys get too complex now,' Mandarb says.

'Simplicity is nice sometimes :),' Mandarb says.

Adolph says to Mandarb, 'Romania is cool?'

Lady Sandra says, 'Well, there are a few things in testing, and almost in testing.'

Lady Sandra nudges LadyAce.

A sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring, 'There:P.'


Staggering Headbutt Rates?

'Just was wondering if you'd tell me anything about stagger headbutts,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'It seems some characters just do it incredibly often.'

'They suck!!' LadyAce says.

Mandarb says, 'While others never do.'

Mandarb says, 'I can't believe its just luck.'

'It must be stats or something but I can't figure it out,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'Oh, you mean something useful, sorry :) :).'

'See... you have to hold your tongue JUST the right way....' Kaige says to Mandarb.

'Oh i love the if you stagger someone they wake up before you do if it staggers you too =p,' Sabu says, thinking hard.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

'Does dex still work into landing headbutts? i swear to god..' a sadistic mage says callously.

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'It must.'

'I'm not whining or anything, I've just noticed for example milamber staggers an incredibly high amount of times,' Mandarb says.

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'I'm 100 con and can't land them against someone of lower con.'

Tobias Veleda nods his agreement with Mandarb.

'But gareth doesn't,' Mandarb says.

'I hardly landed headbutts on him,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

'Or other headbutters,' Mandarb says.

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we can tell you how to stagger more, but people who do might be able to tell you...'

Mandarb says, 'Con snipers don't really stagger me, con strength doesn't really stagger me.'

'But that milamber char type :P,' Mandarb says.

A sadistic mage says callously, 'Oh!'

'I'm just wondering if one combo is incredibly higher then others or what,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Milamber staggers too much :P.'

'Its the mind stat!' a sadistic mage says callously. 'Bigger brain=bigger impact!'

'Milamber must have high Karma,' Lady Sandra says.

'But he does it to everyone all the time, even con fighters!' you say.

Lady Sandra giggles.

Mandarb says, 'Its gotta be something and its driving me insane.'

Mandarb says, 'He's more scary with his headbutt then sterling is with his stun.'

'Beer karma,' Lady Sandra says.

A sadistic mage snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'Well, if you don't think it's luck, go figure out from Milamber what his secret is :).'

Mandarb says, 'He doesn't know, he's too drunk :P.'

'She means, get yourself channel banned, thats what it is,' a sadistic mage says callously to Mandarb.

Dev Sibwarra says humbly to LadyAce, 'This one is for you i think.'

'I don't get channel banned,' Mandarb says.


Getting Colored Coupons?

'Colored coupons seem very hard to come by, is there a way to make the percentage of them in the prizew machine higher?' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to LadyAce.

'I don't think they should be more common...that's what makes 'em cool,' Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone.

Mandarb says, 'Actually.'

'Add-a-colors even, i seem to get mundanes and half strings just way too often,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Mandarb says, 'He's right.'

Mandarb says, 'Colored coupons are next to gone.'

'I haven't seen a 2 color coupon in years,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'I think they were discontinued :P.'

'You just cant get them nowadays,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly.

Sabu snickers softly.

Mandarb says, 'You see single colors INCREDIBLY rarely.'

'Well, color coupons I can't see putting into the machine because of their value relative to the tokens,' LadyAce says.

A sadistic mage says callously, 'I always get the same prize in a row, two jackpots today, 3 wreaths 3 silk dresses, god.'

'Add a color I can see tweaking some,' LadyAce says.

'Multicolors I only see from winning pk tourneys or end of 6 months trivia games,' Mandarb says.

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'I have a single I'm gonna give away in trivia.'

Tobias Veleda says playfully, 'All I need now is questions ^_~.'

Mandarb says, 'What did you get it from though tobias?'

'I gave out single colours for christmas, didn't I?' Lady Sandra says. 'I forget.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'I have no clue.'

'Come ic with that!' a sadistic mage says callously to Tobias Veleda.

Mandarb says, 'Christmas is the only time color is ever really given out.'

'Can you maybe put the same number of add-a-colors as half strings,' Dev Sibwarra says, full of humility, to LadyAce.

'Color ones do tend to come in games, I don't see that changing a whole lot,' LadyAce says.

Lady Sandra usually does, but is old and can't remember that far back.

Lady Sandra says to Adolph, 'That was Kae, not me.'

'Remind me to look at the color-adding thing via the idea channel?' LadyAce says.

Adolph says, 'Ahh.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, to Lady Sandra, 'You gave non-colors at christmas.'

LadyAce says, 'Yeah, Kae's elves.'

'Someone did,' Dev Sibwarra says very humbly to LadyAce.

'Everyone online got one, or something,' Tobias Veleda says playfully to Lady Sandra.

Mandarb says, 'I haven't won a colored coupon of any sort other then add a color in years.'

Lady Sandra says, 'Ooh, I musta been sleepy.'

'Won, christmas doesn't count :P,' Mandarb says.

Tobias Veleda giggles.

'K, then it's in there,' LadyAce says. 'I sort stuff by topic, so when I work on updating the prize machine ... probably this weekend ... I'll see it then.'

Mandarb says, 'Theres one other game I remember color coupons in.'

Mandarb says, 'The SWEET pirate game.'

Mandarb tugs LadyAce's sleeve imploringly.

'We need that game again,' Mandarb says.

'If there were other hands, I'm sorry but I missed them,' LadyAce says. 'Please re-raise.'

A sadistic mage says, utterly uncaring, 'Pirate?'

'I love that game,' Mandarb says.

'You actually have to think,' Mandarb says.

'Yea, I should do pirate stuff,' LadyAce says. 'I didn't have a chance to do anything for st patricks so i owe ya.'

Mandarb says, 'You don't owe us anything.'

'That game is just by far the best game I've ever played here,' Mandarb says.

Mandarb says, 'Easily the best.'

Tobias Veleda says, with a playful tone, 'What was the pirate game?'

'But it takes a lot of preperation,' Mandarb says.

Adolph notes, 'I loved the boat game with oandlig.'

'Its basicly a follow the clues game,' Mandarb says.


Random Specials on Weapons?

'I know we have a few weapons that have random specials..' Sabu says pensively. 'Can we get some more? and specially a str one since i havent seen a random str weapon yet?'

LadyAce says, 'Random specials like what?'

'Random specials?' Lady Sandra says.

Mandarb says, 'Jaded daggers?'

LadyAce says, 'Oh, you mean random spells.'

'Like the jade dagger.. and the whiffle bat,' Sabu says pensively.

Sabu nods solemnly.

'Oh,' Lady Sandra says.

'The whiffle bat has random specials?' Mandarb says.

Lady Sandra says, 'Well.'

Sabu nods his agreement with Mandarb.

Mandarb says, 'I didn't even know the whiffle bat existed till like 3 days ago :P.'

Mandarb says, 'I killed arkenstone on fool day :P.'

Sabu says, thinking hard, 'Oh heh.'

Sabu just wants to know if it will happen! =p

Sandra says to Sabu, 'well, I don't expect new weapons to go in until more areas go in. But you can idea it for future reference'

Sandra says to Sabu, 'the whiffle bat doesn't have a random special. And it's generally up to the builder'

Sabu says to Sandra, 'hmm i swore i saw something different..'

Sabu says, 'but anyway yeah.. can we get more random spells?!'

Sabu bounces around.

Kaige says, 'I'm not sure what you mean by random spells, we can specify up to two with different chances'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'like random stats essentially'

Sabu says to Sandra, 'idea what? i would like to see some random spell weapons in any new area? =p'

Mandarb says, 'random items are a pain'

Sandra nods her agreement with Sabu.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'weapon a might have spell 1 2 or 3'

Sabu giggles.

Sabu nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'ahh.. Kinda hard to justify that in many cases'

Sabu says, 'ok ill idea it every.. month?'

Sabu giggles.

Tobias grins evilly at Sabu.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra says to Sabu, 'just once, it'll go into the file'

Tobias says, 'I think random stuff makes the game very cool.'

LadyAce says, 'not every month :P'

Tobias says, 'Kae's items in Malta rock.'

LadyAce says, 'I think SOME random stuff is nice.'

Mandarb says, 'I like random stuff, don't get me wrong'

Tobias says, 'I feel the great need to mundane some of those ^_~'

Mandarb says, 'I just hate random stuff taht you can only get once every other week that is fairly hard to get and has an incredibly wide range of possibles'

Adolph says, 'random gear shouldn't be less than +3 stats.'


Article on RENT in LT

LadyAce says, 'Oh, who said that the Rufus article was gone from the web?'

'The one about rent I mean?' LadyAce says.

'Shard did,' you say. 'He said he couldn't find it.'

LadyAce smiles at Shard.

'I did, I cant seem to find no more,' Shard says to LadyAce.

LadyAce found it.

'Thats the best lt ever written,' Mandarb says.

'You use the search box?' Kaige says to LadyAce.

'Url?' Adolph says to LadyAce.

Mandarb says, 'I think ea needs to do a piece like that on stagger headbutt :P.'

LadyAce says to Shard, 'We didn't move it, it's in LTv5n3, August 22 of 1997.'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'no, I suck. I grepped.'

Mandarb says, 'or on stun specials all together'

Kaige giggles at LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Ea! says, 'You'd be disappointed.'

Mandarb says, 'wow....that long ago'

Mandarb says, 'thats incredibly depressing'

Adolph giggles at Mandarb.

Shard says to LadyAce, 'Thanks then, I musta gone blind'

Sabu raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Mandarb says, 'I used to read the lt believe it or not :P'

Sabu says, 'uh?'

LadyAce says, 'it's a good article'

Sabu giggles.

Mandarb says, 'now its just rp'

Mandarb says, 'and how many players were on at what hour'

Soze laughs with amusement.

Mandarb says, 'thats in there like everytime now, which is kinda cool'

Kaige says, 'I only get that info monthly so'



Mandarb says, 'I think the pk corner was taken out too'

Tritoch says, 'dont even have the pk section anymore, sniffle'

Sandra says to Tritoch, 'people stopped sending me stuff!'

Mandarb says, 'yea, pk section was cool'

Kaige says, 'I bet it's cause the pk'ers never send anything in for it.'

Mandarb says, 'sandra'

Mandarb says, 'your here CONSTANTLY'

Kaige says, 'they USED to'

Sandra says, 'SEND ME STUFF!'

Mandarb says, 'you don't need us to send you stuff :P'

Sandra says, 'well, its not like I always pay attention tho'

Tritoch says to Sandra, 'like logs?'

Kaige says, 'it's not HER job to do it for you'

Mandarb says, 'and you have active pkillers :P'

Kaige rolls her eyes heavenward.

Tritoch says, 'or just a tell saying, hey mandarb beat my arse today.. :P'

Sandra says to Mandarb, 'yea, but its not like I pay attention with them either ;)'

Mandarb says, 'afk a sec'

Sandra says to Tritoch, 'either's fine'

Mandarb says, 'but'

Mandarb says, 'in reality'

Adolph snickers at Sandra nastily.

Mandarb says, 'pk is pretty dead'

Mandarb says, 'except for the random jump, theres no rhyme or reason to pk, no wars or anythin fun like that'

Sabu says to Mandarb, 'go afk =p'

Mandarb says, 'so not much to report on'

Ea! says, 'Monday night was a blood bath.'

Kaige thinks it's a self-fullfilling prophecy.

Ea! says, 'No, wait, it was Tuesday.'

Mandarb says, 'I'm just telling you what happens'

Sabu peers around the room intently.

LadyAce says, 'more than a bloodbath, it was some kinda mad soap opera.'

Tritoch says, 'doh? what happened tuesday?'

Mandarb says, 'there are no wars anymore or anything like that'

Mandarb says, 'no clan rivarlies'

Sandra says to Mandarb, 'that reminds me. Remember that idea?'

Mandarb nods his agreement with Sandra.

Adolph says to Mandarb, 'start one, then'

Sabu nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says to Mandarb, 'got people interested'

LadyAce says, 'giant war between two clans :P lots of multiing.'

Mandarb says, 'which goes back to the idea earlier said that clans are worthless, at least in pk'

Ea! says, 'I dunno, just kept seeing people dying on info. I was mostly oow coding.'

LadyAce says, 'and you missed it :P'

Mandarb says, 'I've tried, people don't listen'

Mikhail raises his hand.

Tritoch says, 'what clans?'

Mandarb says, 'multiing isn't real pk'

Soze grumbles at crossatlantic routing.

Soze whines.

LadyAce says, 'was SWAT vs Avengers!'

Mandarb says, 'its crap'

Mandarb says, 'and they aren't pkillers'

LadyAce says, 'well, it was still soap opera.'

Mandarb says, 'they are wannabies'

Tritoch says, 'oh, pft i couldnt jump in anyways'

Sabu says to Sandra, 'can we get more weapons you builders would love to add random specials to? =p'

Mikhail has a non pk related question :)

LadyAce says, 'oh, don't be a snot.' Mandarb nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Mandarb says, 'I'm not'

Mandarb says, 'they don't accept everyone, or even anyone'

Adolph says, 'he's got a point there.'

Ea! says to Mandarb, 'Well, they might be "wannabes" but they're fighting and having fun.'

Adolph says, 'I go AA and afk at inns all the time now.'

Mandarb says, 'with no reprecussions or sense of commitment :)'

LadyAce says to Tritoch, 'sorry, it's your turn.'

Tritoch says to Mandarb, 'lets join usl, and go on an avenger killing spree'


Prize Machine

Tritoch says, 'oh yeah, umm can you make the prize machine less prone to repeat? like maybe you cant get the same prize till you go ic/ooc..or if there is one in your inv already'

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'thats the best idea ive ever heard from you'

Sabu says, 'ooh'

Tritoch grins evilly at Dashiva.. wonder what he's thinking...

LadyAce says, 'well, i thought about having a trade in, people have brought that up before'

Dashiva says, 'a really good one at that'

Sabu says, 'cant get same string that is in inventory would be cool'

Sabu says, 'ooh trade in?'

LadyAce says, 'but I think that getting repeat prizes is part of the prize machine. It's not supposed to always give you something good :P' Tritoch says, 'oh and, maybe a list of whats in teh machine?'

LadyAce says, 'no, no list of what's in the machine. The little plastic eggs are all sealed up.'

Sabu says, 'yeah i would like to be able to type look machine to tell whats in it'

Tritoch sniffles quietly.

Dashiva says, 'yea if they do that no more repeat jackpots'

LadyAce says, 'it's supposed to sometimes irritate you :P'

Tritoch says, 'make it really public when the prizes change then?'

Soze snickers softly.

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'aaaww you could throw hints instead of saying it outright? =p' LadyAce says, 'If you look at the machine, it now has a date of its last update.'

Adolph says, 'just put a board next to the machine :p'

Sabu cheers for LadyAce - huzzah!

Tobias says, 'A trade in with a 3 or 4 prize string to one token ratio might work.'

Tritoch says, 'but when i get 6 of two prizes, bad prizes you dont getirriated, you go insane :p'

Sabu says, 'i like that'

X'z says, 'look sign'

LadyAce says, 'not my idea'

LadyAce points at Lorenzo.

Tritoch says, 'poor dusk got 5 golden candelabra's a few days ago'

Sabu cheers for Lorenzo - huzzah!

LadyAce throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

Sabu snickers at Tritoch nastily.

Sabu says, 'hehe'

Sabu pets a golden candelabra lovingly.

Lorenzo raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Lorenzo says, 'Hmm?'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'your idea'

Tobias says, 'Just give away duplicates.'

Tobias giggles.

LadyAce says, 'so who else has questions? I might've missed some'

Tobias looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'Oh, was it? I forgot.'

Lorenzo smiles happily.

LadyAce is feeling a little disorganized after that little explosion!

Tobias giggles at LadyAce.


Gold Mine Quest Difficulties

Mikhail says, 'ok, this whould prolly be idea'd, but wanted to just say it since I here'

Mikhail says, 'when is Gold mine quest gonna be changed, it was realistic in the utexas days, but in these days of people sitting ooc for 48 hours and such, and never less than 20 players...'

Mikhail says, 'there is never anyone on who hasn't done it'

Dashiva nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Kaige says, 'idea it so I remember it?'

Shard says, 'eayh fix that!'

Sandra says, 'maybe we should change ooc to not let people sit there for 48 hours ;)'

LadyAce says, 'ooh, this is an opportunity'

Dashiva says, 'i had to get on at like 4 am to do it'

Tobias says to P-k, 'Hopefully it'll turn out alright.'

Sabu snickers softly.

Mikhail nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'that too'

Sabu nods his agreement with Sandra.

Dashiva says, 'and then i had to ask 3 people to get off'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'it's a good place to use the ideas from that email you sent around about quest structure'

Tritoch says, 'maybe the people ooc shouldnt count as being on, for the goldmine?'

Shard says, 'not to mention people who have their whois list off'

Tritoch says, 'since they are ooc anyways :p'

Sandra says, 'maybe paul should kill them'

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Sandra drools contentedly.

Tritoch grins evilly.

Mikhail says, 'or maybe only people in indus can block you getting flag'

Lorenzo snickers softly.

Tritoch nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Sandra plots.

Tobias cowers in fear of Sandra's wrath!

Dashiva says, 'round lag for reject/accept'

Lorenzo says to Sandra, 'Post a no loitering sign, have him call the cops.'


Accept Delays in PKOK

Dashiva says, 'I guess thats it for accepting invis and backstabbing on same pulse'

Tritoch grins evilly at Dashiva.. wonder what he's thinking...

LadyAce says to Shard, 'your turn'

Shard says, 'Can we get some lag on going AA? I hate it when I see someone go AA then 10 seconds later the reject all'

Mikhail nods his agreement with Kaige.

Shard says, 'I want the fishers to stop'

Tritoch says, 'lag or ticks?'

Tobias says, 'Ticks.'

Sabu says, 'wouldnt that apply with the accept/reject lag increase?'

Dashiva says, 'he wants a AA timer'

Adolph says, 'I have an alt that goes aa and rejects alot, I do it to see who on is AA.'

Shard says, 'Ticks i meant, make it 48 like everything else :-)'

Sabu says, 'or tick increase on the welcome board?'

Adolph says, 'I like that.'

Sabu looks at the welcome board.

Adolph says, 'actually, why can't EVERYONE See who's AA?'

Tritoch says to Adolph, 'and the aa people dont, if you proceed to jump them:P'

Adolph pokes Ea! in the ribs.

Adolph says, 'well, there's certain AA's I don't like playing with'

Kaige says to Adolph, 'I thought you all didn't LIKE people accepting you out of the blue to jump you becuase you're accept all and you want to make that easier?'

Ea! says, 'What do other people think about setting the timer on people when they accept all?'

Tritoch says, 'do it! :P'

Tritoch says, '900 ticks!'

Tritoch ducks to the ground.

Sabu says, 'i think a timer should be set and a big one'

Sandra's all for it, and thought it did already =P

Adolph says to Ea!, 'no prob if you change it to where all people see who's aa, instead of only AA's'

Sabu says, 'i also think a timer for accepting an AA should be bigger then normal pkok enabled'

Dashiva says to Sabu, 'are you pk'ing again?'

Sandra wrinkles her nose at Sabu.

Sabu shrugs helplessly.

Sabu says to Dashiva, 'doubtfull but im trying'

Tritoch asks Sabu a question. It sounded like 'you still banned?' to you.

Kaige says, 'we only track one timer'

Dashiva nods solemnly.

Sabu nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Dashiva comforts Sabu.

Tritoch says, 'pft'

P-k says, 'going aa and then rejecting all should have a timer, but it should not be longer that a normal timer for something to do with pkill'

Ea! says, 'Isn't the point of having the timer there so that people can't just accept all for a few seconds to figure out who to attack later on?'

Shard nods his agreement with Ea!.

Dashiva says, 'yea but they can just reject again'

Shard says, 'thats exactly my point'

Dashiva says, 'unless that timer is activated'

Dashiva says, 'the timer should be on at 48 when you go AA'

Dashiva says, 'not duels'

P-k says, 'make it a 10 tic timer, that will give anyone the chance to see them go aa'

Sabu says, 'if you go AA you should have an auto timer set..'

Dashiva nods solemnly.

Adolph says, 'that just takes away from AA, actually, discourages people to go AA.'

Sabu shrugs helplessly.

P-k says, 'how long is a tic anyway?'

Mordred returns to being In Character.

Lorenzo begins to twitch nervously.

Dashiva grins evilly at Lorenzo.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra says, 'well, not really'

Adolph says, 'we need to encourage aa :p'

Lorenzo begins to twitch nervously.

Sandra says, 'people that want to be aa, will not be bothered by the timer'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Mikhail says to P-k, 'that is one of the great mysteries of life :)'

Sandra says, 'people that are just sightseeing will tho'

Tritoch says, 'i like it, if they wanna go aa, check who there is, then whore them, they can be open to retaliation by friends :p'

P-k nods her agreement with Mikhail.

Adolph says to Sandra, 'it's my goal to get new people to go aa though'

Dashiva nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Dashiva says, 'yea, if we multi enough aa newbies then all there friends will go AA to beat us, thus encouraging pk'

Sandra says to Adolph, 'I think that's a good goal, but the people tha t this will bother are really only those that are just toying with people, not those that want to go aa'

Sabu nods his agreement with Sandra.

Shard nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sabu says, 'it will affect those who do it to see who is aa to reject all then accept the aa and jump them'

Adolph says to Sandra, 'it's still discouraging to know that if you go AA, your stuck for a while, to a new AA'er'

Dashiva says, 'what do you think about a serperate Accept AA's, aside from pkok?'

Sabu looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'so why are people arguing for AA to be perm? sounds contrary to that idea, yes?'

Adolph says to Dashiva, 'won't happen'

Dashiva says, 'I think someone poested it'

Sabu says to Adolph, 'i see your point'

Sandra says, 'they should probably work into it slowly. Probably like pk clans first, then all clans, then aa, or something like that'

Adolph says to Kaige, 'I'm not arguing that :p'

Tritoch says to Adolph, 'anyone who doesnt love pk enough to plunge right on in thier first time, shouldnt do it'

Sabu nods his agreement with Sandra.

Shard grins evilly at Tritoch.. wonder what he's thinking...

Lorenzo raises his eyebrow at Tritoch.

Adolph says to Tritoch, 'in the old system, this aint the old system'

Sabu says to Adolph, 'encourage slowly getting into a full pk is always a good way to get into things for a long run'

Tobias raises his hand.

Mitra says, 'i disagree'

Mitra shrugs helplessly.

Mitra says, 'people have to start somewhere'

Sabu nods his agreement with Mitra.

Ea! says to Shard, 'Okay, here's the deal:'

Kaige says, 'and gee.. might also be a good way to build a pk community, by teaching others how to do it'

Adolph nods his agreement with Kaige.

Mitra says, 'i'd rather they get their toe wet and move in rather than dive in, burn out, and quit'

Sabu nods his agreement with Mitra.

Mandarb disappears into the void.

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'wanna teach me your secrets to pk so i can kill you with them?'

Mandarb has returned from the void.

Adolph says to Mitra, 'exactly'

Sabu snickers at Dashiva nastily.

Tritoch grins evilly at Dashiva.. wonder what he's thinking...

P-k returns to being In Character.

Tritoch says to Dashiva, 'stop pulling a wyvern :p'

Sandra says to Dashiva, 'YOu mean you don't know his secrets? Hell, I thought everyone did!'

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'I am wyvern'

Dashiva grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what he's thinking...

Ea! says, 'Post on the discussion board about having the reject timer set on anyone who accepts all (not accepting in general, only if they accept all). If players are generally in favor of it and there's no objection from the imm staff, I'll code'

Ea! says, 'it.'

LadyAce says to Tritoch, 'your turn to ask a question'

Shard says to Ea!, 'Okies sounds good, thanks'

Sabu says, 'ooh hurry and post it ill append to it in favor'

Dashiva snickers softly.

LadyAce giggles.

Shard says to Sabu, 'lots of good it'll do you'

Shard comforts Sabu.

Sabu says to Shard, 'none but a lot of my friends are leaving because of pkok and i cant even show em but support them on how it can work well'

Sabu says to Shard, 'so ill help in any way i can even if its just with words' Sabu says to Shard, 'and im working on fixing that.. so be hopefull darn it =p'


Prize Machine Update?

Tritoch says, 'ummm the lil sign on the prize machine (yes i am obsessed) can it list the next update?'

Dashiva says, 'hehe'

Tritoch says, 'and, i dont know if it does this already, but can there be limited of a single prize?'

Phoenix says, 'anyone have a surgeon they want to bring to sl?'

Sandra says, 'Next update: When LadyAce gets to it ?'

Tritoch says, 'make people care more, and make me get screwed less :p'

LadyAce says to Tritoch, 'it's not as predictable as that -- when I have time to change it to say it'll be updated at time X, I also have time to add new items'

LadyAce says to Tritoch, 'there isn't a pre-set update schedule'

Tritoch nods solemnly.

Tritoch says, 'limited would be cool tho, then an imm can refill it or something when its empty :P'

Dashiva beams delightedly.


Brainstorm for PK Games

Tobias says, 'I figured now would be a good time to brainstorm about a spiffy pk thing to replace gangwars.'

Tritoch says, 'mine is, allfearevillordsandra'

Dashiva laughs with amusement.

Tobias says, 'Since we got a buncha people in a room and Q/A dying down ^_~'

Sandra giggles at Tritoch.

Tobias says, '...or not...'

Tobias ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says, 'well...I'd rather finish gangwars and take a breath and review how it went.'

Dashiva snickers softly.

Tobias giggles.

Dashiva says, 'bah I havent been to one gangwar'

Dashiva mutters.

Tritoch says, 'how about ya finish gangwars, then do another gangwars :P'

Tritoch nods his agreement with Dashiva.

Sabu says, 'it woulda been cool to see.. sigh'

Sabu scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Sabu says, 'cant even watch gangwars =p'

LadyAce says, 'better come to this week's then!'

Shard says, 'I'd like gangwars better if it wasnt on a saturday, then i could particpate'

Dashiva says, 'we need another sandra tourney to, but thats later'

Sandra says, 'I'll probably have one in June'

Dashiva sweeps Sandra into a romantic waltz - aren't they a striking couple?

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'gotta like um let me come and be invis to walk around and watch =p'

Sabu nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Tobias says, 'Let people control field mice.'

Tobias says, 'They can't send tells, though.'

Sabu giggles at Tobias.

Tobias says, 'So they can just wander and look at people.'

Dashiva peers around the room intently.

Tritoch says, 'oh i got an idea'

LadyAce says, 'this is a war. no room for spectators'

Tritoch says, 'how about a kill the imms tourny'

Lorenzo says to Tobias, 'Neither does someone :p'

Dashiva cackles gleefully at LadyAce - whatever he's going to do to her, glad it's not you!

Shard says, 'war of the mice!'

Dashiva says, 'oooohj'

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'oooooh' Tritoch says, 'whoever gets the killing blow on an imm gets a token or someting :p no refreshing'

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'true bleah! =p'

Dashiva says, 'now that I like'

Sabu gives LadyAce a great big smooch!

Mikhail says, 'kill imms? Kae would destroy us all, damn sith'

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'but they cant have 50k hp'

Sandra says to Tritoch, 'yea, but you guys can't even hit us. We just laugh at you and stuff'

Tritoch says, 'seriously :p you guys have what, 30k hp? buncha players gangup on you.. :p'

Ea! reports: 30540/30540 hp 10125/10125 mana 789/789 mv.

LadyAce says to Dashiva, 'your turn'

Sandra reports: 30121/30121 hp 1049/1049 mana 1025/1025 mv.

Sandra sniffs sadly.

Dashiva says, 'ok'

Sandra says, 'I'm a wimp'

Sabu snickers softly.

Lorenzo says to Ea!, 'Can Midir beat you?'

Tritoch says, 'didnt rufus get killed by gaidal one april fools? how did he manage that :p'


Hide in Status?

Dashiva says, 'I know I keep asking this on idea, but i thought Id spam you here, why wont hide show up in status?'

Dashiva says, 'I know I keep asking this on idea, but i thought Id spam you here, why wont hide show up in status?'

LadyAce doesnt know why it doesn't

Dashiva says, 'hehe'

Dashiva says, 'well I check it often'

Dashiva says, 'it would help to know when'

LadyAce says, 'Ea says hide shows up in status'

Dashiva says, 'doesnt on mine'

Adolph says, 'maybe the spell?'

Adolph says, 'skill damn sure doesn't'

Ea! says, 'Huh. Maybe it doesn't.'

Dashiva nods his agreement with Adolph.

Ea! says, 'Thought it did.'

Dashiva shakes his head.

Adolph shakes his head in disagreement with Ea!.

Adolph says, 'I want the hide/follow bug back'

Tritoch says, 'wow a bug? its been that way for, well since i started :P figured they wanted hide to be risky'

Dashiva nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Adolph nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'you can tell imms dont pk!'

Ea! says, 'Hm. Maybe it's not a bug. I'll need to look into it.'

LadyAce says, 'well, I don't play dex chars :P'

Dashiva says, 'well some'

Dashiva peers at Sandra, looking her up and down.

Adolph says, 'I figured it was risk involved'

Sandra says, 'me pk!'

Adolph says, 'but you don't fail much at 100 perc :p'

Dashiva says, 'but why would that skill be diffrent than others?'

Mikhail says to Sandra, 'not enough :)'

LadyAce says, 'both those sound like things worth looking into if not bugs :)'

Dashiva says, 'yay'

Sandra says, 'me peekay j00 coz I ownz j00 n00b'

Dashiva says to Sandra, 'ack'

Tritoch whaps Sandra across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

LadyAce looks at Sandra and shudders.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'woo!'

Tritoch says, 'evil!'

Dashiva says, 'I havent seen wyvie in like a week'

Sandra says, 'yea, but it took me a min to t ype that, so it's all good ;0'

Tobias says to Sandra, 'No talking in l33t ^_~'



Dashiva says, 'that and when your invis and look at someone it echos'

LadyAce says, 'well, then that's a bug or sumpin. Sounds like you already reported it tho :)'

Dashiva says, 'hidden and looking at someone does not'

Sandra says, 'invis and looking does? since when?'

Dashiva says, 'somebody looks at you?'



Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'has any thought been given to loading the gangwars area on the real mud as the new recalltag area? is it big enough?'

Dashiva says, 'what is the gangwar area look like?'

Adolph is just quiet and stuff.

Dashiva says, 'is it a complete new one?'

LadyAce says, 'well, the gangwars area just uses existing areas with no mobbies'

LadyAce says, 'not new'

Dashiva says, 'ah'

Mikhail says, 'right, but loaded on diff vnums like it is, it could work'

Tritoch says, 'how come that building with the elevator shafts and the falling and the pain never gets used?'

LadyAce says, 'I don't like writing all new areas for games, I like that much work to go into something more permanent'

LadyAce says, 'or rather for games on other ports'

LadyAce says, 'Stile is working on making tag a game we can play in any area actually'

LadyAce says, 'that's what I would rather see happen with tag'

Adolph says, 'sweet'

Dashiva says, 'tell pkwarden transfer me, you have been transported the LegendMUD frag arena'

Mikhail nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Ryan has arrived from the east.

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'just miss it :)'

Tritoch says, 'tell pkwarden transfer dashiva'

Ryan sits down and rests on a lawn chair.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Mikhail.

Dashiva says to Tritoch, 'you know I would beat you!'

Tritoch says, 'make it an auto aa area :p tell warden transfer afk mandarb'

Tritoch ducks under Mandarb.

Sandra wrinkles her nose at Tritoch.

Dashiva snickers softly.

Tobias ducks to the ground.


Clan Membership levels

Adolph says, 'what was the point in raising the max number of slots in clans?'

Dashiva says, 'larger coven orgies'

Adolph smirks.

Tritoch laughs with amusement.

Sandra says to Dashiva, 'you wish!'

Dashiva throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Mikhail winks suggestively at Sandra.

Dashiva says, 'yea its plenty for me'

Kaige says, 'we had enough people in the existing clans and befriended and seeking to warrant it finally'

Adolph says, 'more importantly, were the number of clans reduced?'

Kaige says, 'nope.'

Adolph rolls his eyes heavenward.

Kaige says, 'We haven't lost any clans yet.'

Tobias says, 'We're gonna lose lazy soon, I bet.'

Adolph says, 'nevermind.'

Tobias hangs his head.

Tritoch comforts Tobias.

Dashiva says, 'time for lazy to go'

LadyAce says, 'I can see us raising the minimum number for active members actually'

Tritoch says to Tobias, 'i got an alt i could roster fill with :p'

Tritoch goes EEK! at LadyAce in distress - isn't LadyAce an awful person for teasing?

LadyAce says, 'might be worth doing, has been discussed a lot.'

Adolph says, 'I'll refrain from whining that there's too many clans, thus helping pk die out'

Adolph says, 'raising the min to start would suck, give em a few days to get from 5 to 7 or something, then'


Accept Only 32 People?

Tobias says, 'Why can you only accept 32 people?'

LadyAce says, 'memory limits'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Adolph.

Adolph says, 'but good idea'

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'Memory limits...?'

LadyAce says, 'are you filling your accept/reject?'

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'I wouldn't think it'd be too huge ^^;'

LadyAce says, 'well, we just can't make it infinite'

Dashiva says, 'heh I have most imms on my accept list =P'

Tobias says, 'I've got no rejects...and a ton of accepts including all.'

Tobias giggles.

Dashiva hugs his AA list.

LadyAce says, 'it's an arbitrary limit at this point I think'

Tobias nods solemnly.

Dashiva says, 'ack no sandra'

Ea! says, 'If you've got all, you don't need anything else.'

Ea! giggles.

Shard says, 'why accept anyone when you can accept all?'

Tobias says to Ea!, 'I'm too lazy to do maintenance ^^;'

Dashiva says to Sandra, 'rent out so I can AA you!'

Ea! nods his agreement with Tobias.

Tobias says, 'I really should, I guess.'

Tobias says, 'Can you only have 32 friends?'

Dashiva says, 'heh'

Tritoch says, 'and enemys'

Tobias says, 'Cause my house should already be a clanhall, its got so many people allowed in ^_~'

Ea! says, 'I think so.'

Adolph says, 'well, it's possible to accept all and reject 32 people.'

Adolph says, 'THAT is how the system is suppose to work'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Adolph.

Adolph says, 'speaking of that, most people don't even realize it.'

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Ea! says, 'Yeah, 32 there as well.'

Tobias nods his agreement with Ea!.

Adolph nods his agreement with Ea!.


Limit on # of PK Clans?

Sabu says, 'ok i know this is gunna sound kinda bad but.. could it be possible to make it so there is a limited amount of clans available slots for pk clans?'

Tobias says, 'I think there is already?'

Sabu says, 'that doesnt sound right hopefully you understand my question =p'

Kaige says, 'no.. it's just always hovered right around 10'

Kaige says, 'about 1/3 of the total'

Ea! says, 'You're wondering if we can make is so, say, there can only be 8 pk clans?'

Sabu says, 'i think there is only a limit to total amount of clans..'

Sabu nods his agreement with Ea!.

Kaige says, 'yes, only a hard limit of 32 clans total.'

LadyAce says, 'if we have a problem with them proliferating or not having enough room, I can see adding a limit'

Sabu says, 'like make the max ammount of the open slots of pk down to around 8-9 or lower and the rest used for rp'

LadyAce says, 'beyond that, I would rather let players vote with their feet as to which kind of clan they want to be in'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Shard says, 'like we need more dumb RP clans'

Adolph says, 'designating a few slots to AA only clans would be hella cool'

Mitra says to Shard, 'or dumb pk clans'

Shard laughs at his own folly.

Shard nods his agreement with Mitra.

LadyAce says, 'we don't need dumb ones, but smart ones are always welcome :P'

Mitra says, 'my clan is aa or darn close'

Mitra shrugs helplessly.

Tritoch says to Sabu, 'people in other pk clans prolly would just be rogue, not join older ones'

Sabu says, 'yeah.. i was just suggestion that because a lot of pk clans come and go fast and would like to see a smaller clan ammount but more forces in said clans'

Adolph says, 'I'm talking clans that have no option.'

Adolph says, 'hell, I'd be the first to join.'

Shard laughs at Tritoch.

Adolph grins evilly at Tritoch.. wonder what he's thinking...

Kaige says, 'the largest PK clan hasn't even broken the old limit for members yet.'

Adolph nods his agreement with Kaige.

Shard says, 'what is the largest pk clan anyways?'

LadyAce says to Tritoch, 'it's your turn now, if you still have a question'

Adolph says, 'coven?'

Sandra shakes her head in disagreement with Adolph.

Tritoch says, 'grendels has like 13 or something'

Sabu says to Kaige, 'what i think a problem with pk clans are that there are too few in too many clans'

Adolph says, 'maybe one of the newer clans'

Sandra says to Adolph, 'not yet anyway. Hehe'

Kendrik says to Sabu, 'maybe make min 8 or 10?'

Adolph grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sabu says to Kaige, 'with fewer clans becomes more members'

Sabu shrugs philosophically.

Adolph says to Sabu, 'that'd be good, imo'

Tritoch says, 'umm i was accepting someone to fight them, and i lost link, got back, i still accepted them, but i couldnt attack, cause i didnt accept them, and i couldnt accept cause i already did.. :p'

Kaige says, 'with active GMs and active clan members comes more members too'

Adolph nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sabu says, 'a min in pk clans should either be upped or make it so available slots for pk clans be limited'

Kaige says, 'if we even upped the min to 7 that's only take out 2 pk clans'

Tritoch says, 'yeah, including mine'

Tritoch holds his head down and mourns the dead.

Adolph snickers softly.

Tritoch says, 'oh or not'

Sabu says, 'then take those slots and make em rp.. then the pk clans get bigger =p'

Kendrik says to Kaige, 'maybe make it to be rp clan you need 5, but to graduate to pk you need 10?'

Tritoch jumps Fear.

Fear flops about helplessly. Tobias blinks at X'z. Shard returns to being In Character.

Fear says, '10 people makes it too hard to start a pk clan, tho'

Sabu nods his agreement with Fear.

Fear says, 'all on at the same time? no way'

Kendrik says, 'thats the point, you have to graduate to pk clan'

Sabu says, 'i just feel the lack of a solid membered pk clan isnt helping much for wars that could be started etc'

Fear says, 'agreed.'

Sabu says, 'not saying active as much as i mean just all around in a clan'

Tritoch says, '5 on at the same time is enough :P i had to induct 3 stewart alts once, just so the clan didnt poof'

Tritoch snickers softly. Sandra says, 'I think that the problem is in the GMs of those clans, not the clan system. Boot 'em out, and get a better one!'

Kaige says, 'yeah well # of pk clans over 10 is only 3 which is less than 50% of pk clanns.. aand about 50% of RP clans have over 10'

Kendrik says, 'no no no, you start an rp clan with 5, then once you have 10 members you can become pk'

Fear says, 'we're pretty solid lately, though. we just need someone to fight with ;)'

Sabu giggles at Sandra.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'yeah, the three PK over 10 have active GMs'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'well, before we dissolve altogether, does anyone have any other questions?'

LadyAce says, 'or are we all done?'

Mitra says to LadyAce, 'the price of tea in China?'

Snoring loudly, Tobias nods off to sleep using a lawn chair as a pillow.

Sabu says, 'just a thought.. maybe you can be able to join pk clans with a command?'

Tritoch says, 'oh'

Kaige says to Sabu, 'like seek and induct?'

Tritoch says, 'which pk clan has the most people atm?'

Sabu says, 'yeah but like your clan seeks and gets inducted'

Sabu says, 'easier to do if you have more than 4 members wanting to switch to another clan'

Sabu says, 'would disban the original clan and would put em all fresh into the clan they seeked and got inducted?'

Sabu shrugs philosophically.

Sabu says, 'just a thought of mine is all heh'

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'ok, I think we're done for now then'

LadyAce says, 'thanks for coming.'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Sandra says, 'don't forget to come to my pk thingie Saturday and stuff!'

       Saturday, April 7th   2:00 pm  Last Chance! PK Tourney, Gangwars Format
                             7:00 pm  Sandra's Pkill Discussion

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