Lecture Series Index

January 24th, 2002

Q & A Index

Topics Covered

Apples in Tara?
Silk Not Cloth in Klein?
Why Have Doors Reset?
Backstab Changes?
Unimped Spells?
Level Restriction for AT?
Crusades Update?
Why is 1802 Alaska Medieval?
Any Plans for an Iceland?
Buying Multiple in Sherwood?
More Socials?
Skill Lag and Charmies?
Liquid Types and Fountains?
Different Rents for Housing & Carried?
Code Release?
Way to Check Cast Level?
Client Compression?
What do Imms Want from Players?
Expies Ballots?
Dip Changes?

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Apples in Tara?

Styx says, 'The bug with the apple in tara not being a raw fruit hasn't been fixed yet and I would love to know why'

LadyAce says, 'most likely because no one's gotten to it ... did you report it on idea?'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige has created a nice ripe apple!

Styx says, 'Cheyla told me to report it on bug'

Kaige bakes a nice ripe apple into a pie -- my, it smells good!

LadyAce says, 'well, either way, it all goes to the same place'

Kaige says, 'fixed.'

Nexela laughs with amusement.

Styx laughs with amusement.

LadyAce says, 'ah, already fixed then :)'

Kaige says, 'yeah I think I fixed it the day he bugged it.'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Nexela cheers for Kaige - huzzah!


Silk Not Cloth in Klein?

Ibrahim says to LadyAce, 'quite some time ago, i made a small bugreport about the silk clothing in Kleinstadt not being cloth. It's a small thing, but it would be nice to either mend it or make bandages out of it'

LadyAce says, 'the update has it set to cloth, I'm not sure if it's set that way in the current version'

Ibrahim nods solemnly.

Ibrahim says, 'well it's not a big thing'

LadyAce says, 'I have a few other little bits to toss in there anyway'

Ibrahim just felt like he had to come up with something and it seemed related to the previous question.

Ibrahim nods solemnly.


Why Have Doors Reset?

Styx says, 'Why do the doors in the dun have to be self closing'

Goin'fission chuckles politely.

Styx says, 'it is really irritating'

Nexela shudders.

Ibrahim chuckles politely.

Nexela nods his agreement with Styx.

LadyAce says, 'tryin to cheat the gate tax, are ye?'

Ibrahim thinks it's better than them being open 24/7, winter or summer.

Kaige says, 'well, they don't close on their own after they're opened the first time, and it seemed like too much free exp for just wandering around based on where LegendDB tells you to, so it's now a bit of effort.'

Styx says, 'no i just kill the old warrior'

LadyAce smiles at Styx.

Ibrahim says to Styx, 'cheapscate, he asks for so little'

Kaige says, 'and the extra work to code ALL the mobs to close doors that are open isn't worth it for the performance hit it'd take'

Ibrahim snorts derisively.

Styx says, 'I've seen the tapestry close by itself though'

Nexela says, 'Yeah it should cost a fortune to get into the Dun!'

Kaige says, 'the tapestry should fall closed automatically like the ones in Alaska... but I haven't had the time to look to see how Cheyla did that and steal it yet.'

Nexela laughs with amusement.

LadyAce giggles.


Kaige says, 'which is much more along the lines of coding all the mobs to do it than a single line in the resets section.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Styx says, 'yeah'

Kaige says, 'but they have been slowed down a bit'

Styx says, 'good point'


Backstab Changes?

Goin'fission says, 'why did backstab change?'

Styx says, 'it changed?'

Ibrahim raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Goin'fission says, 'yep'

Kaige says, 'that's what I was gonna say.'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'It's a special Goin'fission code we added'

Goin'fission jumps up and down.

Ibrahim says, 'i haven't noticed any change'

Nexela says, 'What change'

Ea! says to Goin'fission, 'Backstab was last changed on 2000-12-07.'

Nexela peers around the room intently.

Goin'fission says, 'i've noticed a mean old change from a few months ago'

Sandra says, 'the one in Goin's mind ;)'

Ea! says, 'and that was changing the stun to paralysis.'

Nexela laughs with amusement.

Goin'fission grumbles.

Styx rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Ibrahim chuckles politely.

Haley giggles.

Goin'fission says, 'i'm not the only one =P'

Ea! says, 'Actually, the change probably went in on the 15th of December, 2000.'

Sandra says, 'then your senility must be contagious!'

Sandra has created a few analgesic pills!

Sandra eats a few analgesic pills.

LadyAce giggles at Sandra.

LadyAce says to Goin'fission, 'what kinda change are you seeing?'

Ibrahim peers at himself myopically.

Goin'fission says, 'just hits hella less'

Ibrahim isn't infected, how woderful!

Goin'fission says, 'missed 3 in a row (!!) today'

Sandra gasps in astonishment.

Goin'fission says, 'on a weak mob, not a player'

Ibrahim says, 'could be the people you're fighting'

Goin'fission says to Sandra, 'look at my stats! =P'

LadyAce says, 'sounds like bad karma'

LadyAce says, 'help some newbies'

Nexela laughs with amusement.

Goin'fission says, 'every time i help a newbie, i dt =P'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Goin'fission.

Haley giggles at LadyAce.

Styx grumbles.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'go around naked then!'

Nexela nods his agreement with Sandra.

Styx says, 'Ohhh'

Nexela whistles at Goin'fission appreciatively.

Goin'fission says, 'i'll get sitebanned -=P'

Kaige says, 'shock the newbies!'

LadyAce giggles.

Goin'fission jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Kaige!

Styx grins evilly.

Ibrahim says to Kaige, 'they'd never come back'

Goin'fission says, 'oh well, thanks all =P'

LadyAce comforts Goin'fission.

Goin'fission tips her hat gallantly.

Goin'fission sniffs sadly.


Unimped Spells?

Clow says, 'ok uhm like when will mages like be able to do the spells that aren't implemented i think the coders should hurry up and do the codes for the spells instead of doin what else their doin'

Ea! says, 'Most of the spells that aren't implemented never will be...'

LadyAce says, 'we generally try to respond to imbalances and bugs first'

Ea! says, 'They overlap too much with skills or skills that are planned for trees...'

Nexela says, 'I'll code some more spells in'

Nexela ducks to the ground.

Ea! says, 'Such as mesmerize, feign death, etc.'

Clow says, 'well thats crap if chain lightning will never be implemented'

Clow says, 'no chain lightning first'

Ea! says, 'at some point, I'll get unlazy and remove them from allspells and so forth, it's just that I need to be a bit careful about how it's done so as to not cause problems.'

Clow says, 'in my opinion when they implement chain lightning that will be a good spell'


Level Restriction for AT?

Styx says, 'Whatever happened to HOL cause I really miss the Silver Pentacle on a Leather Thong, and why is there no Level REstriction on AT?'

LadyAce says, 'well, HOL was pulled because we were threatened with lawsuit if we didn't'

LadyAce says, 'and why do you think AT needs a level restriction?'

Nexela shudders.

Styx says, 'oh really'

Ibrahim says to Styx, 'been away a while lad?'

Nexela says, 'he a meanie!'

Styx says, 'I think that if two have level restrictions why not all three'

Styx says, 'i can never get to go to sl or pd cause all the lowbies want to go to at'

Tobias says, 'we couldn't see tiny newbies die on runs then!'

LadyAce says, 'it doesn't seem like a good reason to do it just because it's done in other areas'

Styx laughs with amusement.

Tobias says, 'There's that fun element of danger in protecting whoever's leeching in AT ^_~'

Ibrahim chuckles politely at Tobias's feeble witticism.

Haley thought it was up to the individual builder...

Ibrahim nods his agreement with Haley.

Styx says, 'tha main reason is cause i never get to go to pd or sl'

LadyAce says, 'Level restrictions are a way to protect newbies from accidentally wandering into a dangerous place'

Styx says, 'and AT isn't dangerous?'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think it's realistic to expect newbies to wander into it'

Tobias says, 'little tough to wander in.'

Styx says, 'yeah'

LadyAce says, 'it's not that easy to get to'

Nexela nods his agreement with Tobias.

Ibrahim nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'if you want to go to an area, organize a run and go :P'

Nexela has died to the lion

Nexela ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says, 'cool :)'

Nexela says, 'or whatever it is'

LadyAce says, 'mountain cat? :)'

Nexela says, 'yeah that'

Nexela shudders.

Adamar says, 'level restrictions is only a bother to experienced players who want to power level characters'

Styx says, 'well im against helping newbies now'

Tobias says, 'Or a way to keep new players here...'

Ibrahim raises his eyebrow at Styx.

Tobias says, 'Which is kinda important.'

Ibrahim nods his agreement with Tobias.

Haley says, 'if you are that experienced you can do it other ways too, not just from runs.'

Nexela says, 'I think it takes my alt 15 mins to get a newbie 6 levels'

Sandra says, 'I powerlevel characters without ever stepping foot into AT, SL or PD'

Nexela nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Haley nods her agreement with Nexela.

Ibrahim nods his agreement with Haley.

LadyAce says, 'when I update, AT is liable to get more dangerous to newbies and group members in general'

Mysanthrope nods his agreement with Sandra.

Nexela says to LadyAce, 'Your Areas rock'

Nexela ducks to the ground.

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'What's the ETA on that? I bet that'd help kill general boredom for me, that's for sure ^_~'

LadyAce giggles.

Styx nods solemnly.

Styx sighs loudly.

Tobias blinks at Styx.

LadyAce says, 'I'm not sure I have an ETA. RL has been chewing up a fair bit of time lately.'

Tobias nods solemnly.

Styx says, 'Work sucks'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Tobias cowers in fear of Sigrid's wrath!

LadyAce says, 'I should have more time now that my boss is back from maternity leave'


Crusades Update?

Mysanthrope says, 'is crusades got a area update planned ?'

LadyAce says, 'I have an update of what's there, planned.'

LadyAce says, 'not new rooms, few if any new mobs.'

LadyAce says, 'some fixes, quest updates/additions, that sort of thing'

Mysanthrope says, 'making the current mobs harder ?'

LadyAce says, 'a fishing section so you can fish up different things'

LadyAce says, 'I won't make any harder except those that are out of spec by the stats'

Mysanthrope cheers wildly!

Mysanthrope grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'I think there's one or two that are out of line a bit, last time I looked at the logs we keep'

Tobias says, 'A fountain so the armies don't die of dehydration? That salesman's gotta be making a lotta money.'

LadyAce says, 'it's a dry country :P'

Tobias grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'there's water, just not all over the darn place :)'

Tobias says, 'Remind me to set up a bottled water stand, then.'

LadyAce giggles.

Tobias says, 'Give that merchant some competition!'


Why is 1802 Alaska Medieval?

Styx says, 'Ok alaska is supposed to be 1802 right? yet it is in medieval times'

Styx says, 'that doesn't make sense to me'

Sigrid nods her agreement with Styx.

Sandra says, 'it's just the way we set things up. FI is in the 1800s too if i remember right'

Styx says, 'the only reason i ask is cause im from alaska'

Kaige says, 'Cheyla has a much more industrialized area she wants to eventually build for ind as well.'

LadyAce says, 'you can call it medieval, or colonial'

Ibrahim says, 'salem and boston too, approximately?'

LadyAce says, 'it's pre-industrial, basically'

Styx says, 'well they did have guns'

Sandra says, 'well, salem and boston are late 1600s'

LadyAce says, 'the industrial version is, hm, 1922 or somethin'

Kaige says, 'there's a lot we have that are right on the cusp'

Tobias says, 'So does tudor, though ^_~'

Kaige says, 'they have guns in tortuga as well.'

Ea! says, 'There's a difference between having imported guns and having industy.'

Styx shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'industrialization isn't the same as having guns'

Kaige says, 'a lot of it is where does it feel like it goes and what else do we already have or plan to have'

Styx says, 'ok'

LadyAce smiles at Styx.

Kaige says, 'like technically Aztecs is mid 1300's, and should be medieval... but it FEELS more ancient the way it's done'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'Same with Arabian Nights.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Ea!.


Any Plans for an Iceland?

Sigrid says, 'aye, I be wondering if ye's gonna put Iceland in, I be missin me home'

LadyAce says, 'I don't know of anyone working on that'

Ibrahim chuckles politely.

Sigrid snarls angrily.

LadyAce says, 'so someone would have to immort to work on it :)'

Sigrid says, 'aye'

Styx says, 'i'll do it'

Styx laughs with amusement.

Ibrahim says to Sigrid, 'come live at my place, you'll love it I'm sure. Trees all around'

Sigrid snarls at Ibrahim.

Sigrid says to Ibrahim, 'to chop down eh?'

Ibrahim whaps Sigrid across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.


Buying Multiple in Sherwood?

Tobias says, 'This has probably been covered...but what's the deal with buying multiples in the stag?'

Tobias says, 'It doesn't seem to...work.'

Dae says to Tobias, 'you are so 3 days ago!'

Kaige says, 'it's a code issue'

Ea! says, 'We're still trying to figure out how to fix the bug.'

Kaige says, 'I tried to fix it but failed.'

Tobias says, 'kay'

Kaige says, 'on both sides, acts and code, so I have to badger Ea! to fix it...'

Kaige scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Tobias comforts Ea!.

Sandra giggles.

Ea! giggles at Kaige.

Kaige says, 'yeah I thought I mentioned that in last week's area update post...'

Styx sighs loudly.

Kaige says, 'I did manage to cut the spam that had been there WAY down tho'

Sandra giggles.

Ea! says, 'The fix for the stag thing will be in with tommorow's update.'

Iashaylla cheers for Ea! - huzzah!

Kaige cheers for Ea! - huzzah!


More Socials?


Styx looks humble.

Styx looks tired.

Styx says, 'We need more socials'

Sandra ponders Styx's existence.

Kaige says, '228 aren't enough?'

Styx says, 'A lot of them I have Idea'd'

Tobias says, 'I keep thinking mutter is a social.'

Tobias says, 'But...its not ^_~'

Kaige nods her agreement with Tobias.

Kaige says, 'me too'

Tobias says, 'its a say thingy.'

Styx says, 'Nope'

Kaige giggles.

Dae says to Tobias, 'I just emote it =)'

Sandra says, 'i do that too'

Sandra giggles.

Edric_wulf bows deeply.

Sigrid points at Edric_wulf.

Tobias says, 'So I always make a fool of myself on chat ^_~'

Iashaylla nods her agreement with Tobias.

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Sandra wants an eyepoke social.

Sandra drools contentedly.

Iashaylla says to Tobias, 'it's one of the things you're best at'

Iashaylla giggles.

Tobias cowers in fear of Sandra's wrath!

LadyAce points at Edric_wulf.

Dae invented the eyepoke social.

Sandra runs around the room poking you all in the eye.

Sandra ponders Dae's existence.

Emrysia pats Dae on the head.

Tobias says to Iashaylla, 'I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an anticompliment. I'll assume its a compliment! ^_~'

Styx wants a backflip social and a few others which I have submitted through Idea.

Sigrid be wanting an rbearhug social.

Iashaylla says to Tobias, 'always :)'

Sandra somersaults across the ground, whirling about, and finally lands on her feet.

Sandra says, 'that's about the same'

Dae says to Sandra, 'tae-bo?'

Sigrid be thinkin it discriminatin it be only sissy ugs that can be given te everybody.


Skill Lag and Charmies?

Edric_wulf says, 'my question is about doppel lag on orders, is it there for a reason or just a side effect of something, if I order my doppel to shoot and then reload, there is lag between commands and you have to wait or repeat yourself'

Sandra says, 'um, it's skill lag'

Dae says, 'reload and shoot lag if a regular person does it'

Sandra says, 'they get it just like you ;)'

Ibrahim thinks it's also there for players?

Iashaylla says, 'why is there lag when it is not a skill?'

Kaige says, 'because it still takes time to do'

Edric_wulf says, 'ok, but the difference is, I cant stack commands on my doppel like I can myself'

Dae says, 'cuz I would spam shoot the hell out of you with filmys'

Dae says, 'god I would love that'

Dae says, 'and bubblies!'

Dae licks his lips and smiles.

Iashaylla says, 'if I order my mobs to do something multiple times, I can do it twice as many times as it takes them to do it'

Sandra says, 'well he's not as smart as you. Throwing all those commands at him will get him confused'

Dae says, 'weeniebwain'

Sandra says, 'why, if I were him, I'd get so mad I'd shoot you instead!'

Sigrid says to Sandra, 'yer sayin eddie is smart?'

Iashaylla chuckles politely.

Ibrahim chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

Edric_wulf chuckles politely.

Ibrahim says to Sigrid, 'smarter than his doppelganger anyway'

Iashaylla says to Sandra, 'but if it is suppose to be an exact doppleganger of me, shouldnt it be as smart or as dumb as me?'

Edric_wulf says, 'im wondering if it would be overpowering to be able to stack commands on a doppel'

Dae nods solemnly.

Iashaylla nods her agreement with Edric_wulf.

Sandra says, 'I could see it being a problem, yea'

Ibrahim says, 'THAT's why some mobs know it's a doppel, they see a naked me and a less naked me!'

Ea! says, 'It'd be a real pain to code, too.'

Ibrahim bonks himself on the head and looks sheepish.

Dae says, 'what about non sticking combat?'

Edric_wulf says, 'ok, just wondering, I can live with it, just wondering why it was there'


Liquid Types and Fountains?

Styx says, 'Is there any other alcohol in the mud beside beer and ale?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Styx.

LadyAce says, 'lots'

Edric_wulf says, 'no, she is saying im slightly smarter then air and light'

Nexela nods his agreement with Styx.

LadyAce says, 'whiskey, mead, wines...'

Sandra says, 'tequilla!'

LadyAce says, 'lots of different alcohols'

Styx says, 'Hmm Need a tequila fountain'

Iashaylla says, 'what about a bar you could buy for houses, that you can pay rent to restock?'

Iashaylla snickers softly.

Styx says, 'I'd use MZF if it was compatible'

Kaige says, 'beer, wine (red & white), ale, dark ale, whiskey, firebreather & local specialty, mead, rum, tquila, lots of 'em'

Dae says, 'firebreather is still around?'

Sandra says, 'and the one that beats them all...'

Sandra says, 'rootbeer!'

Kaige nods her agreement with Dae.

Dae says, 'wow'

Iashaylla giggles at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce giggles.

Tobias says to Dae, 'There was some floating around after the pink fountain thingy ^_~'

Styx says, 'I need some different fountains and I could be the Bartender bot'

Dae says, 'what pink fountain thingy?'

Dae peers around the room intently.

Sandra picks up the well of Oblivion and shakes it vigorously.

Styx drinks from a tightly-lidded jug of barley beer.

Sandra drinks from the well of Oblivion.

Sandra says, 'hey that's still eggnog'

Tobias says, 'it was a tinyplot.'

Sandra sniffs sadly.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'fixed?'

Iashaylla says to LadyAce, 'how hard would it be, to code in different fountains for housing, like the beer and such, and maybe it takes extra rent to refill?'

Sandra drinks from the well of Oblivion.

Sandra cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Sandra says, 'my rootbeer!'

Styx says, 'I have my beerfountain right here'

Ibrahim says to Iashaylla, 'can get various types...'

Styx waves a tightly-lidded jug of barley beer.

Dae joins Sigrid's group.

Sandra says, 'isn't hard. It's a builder thing. There are a few different ones'

LadyAce says, 'well, refill is tougher because it's not coded'

LadyAce says, 'but fountains of (x) isn't hard to do'

Iashaylla says, 'all I have seen are water and tea'

Sandra says to Styx, 'you need to probably drop that before I make the rent 5k'

LadyAce says, 'but it would have to fit into an area'

Dude says, 'no need to get hostile, sandra'

Ibrahim chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'I'm not being hostile ;)'

Iashaylla says to LadyAce, 'could it be added to housing options, or some areas? like a bar-room or such for shops in modern, or a den or such in other housing?'

Sandra says, 'if I were hostile, I'd kill him and take it =P'

Dude says, 'well you just threatened him =P'

Clwyd says to Sandra, 'what about Mead in Beowulf?'

Nexela waves happily.

Sandra says, 'Lets put it this way'

Ibrahim says to Dude, 'not with death'

Sandra says, 'If I find another person carrying fountains that are suppose to be for housing, I'll change them all to rent 5k, which WILL be charged to housing =P'

Clwyd whaps Sandra across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

LadyAce says, 'well, use idea to suggest fountains of liquid where whey make sense'

Iashaylla goes EEK! at Sandra in distress - isn't Sandra an awful person for teasing?

Ibrahim ponders a leather waterskin's existence.

Sandra says to Styx, 'so you do need to get rid of the fountain'

Styx says, 'Well i was just commenting on Lady Sandra's thing about people carrying fontains'

Styx says, 'i dont think it should be like that but if you want to make my fountain 5k'

Styx says, 'go ahead'

Styx says, 'but let me be able to wear it on my back'

Sandra says, 'nope'

Dude says, 'i thought all fountains were alrdy high rent... i'm gonna go get one =P'


Different rents for Housing & Carried?

Iashaylla says to Sandra, 'is there a way to code item rents, so they are one thing held, another thing housed?'

LadyAce says to Iashaylla, 'only if they're furniture'

Ibrahim says, 'i think it's fair enough. The purpose of them is clear and it's not too much of a hassle to keep your waterskins filled'

Iashaylla says to LadyAce, 'code fountains into furniture?'

LadyAce says to Iashaylla, 'can't...'

Dude says, '25 mana for create water is still 25 mana'

Styx says, 'you're telling me its hard to do.. bs it is not i have my own mud and it isn't'

Dude snickers softly.

Ibrahim says, 'there's lots of fountains around'

Iashaylla says to Styx, 'different code bases.'

Ibrahim never uses that spell.

Styx says, 'I can still'


Iashaylla says to LadyAce, 'why?'

Sigrid snarls at Emrysia.

Styx says, 'still'

LadyAce says, 'well, furniture is a different item type than fountain'

Iashaylla nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'they have a different group of traits and are handled differently by the code'

Iashaylla says, 'you created an entire catagory for fountains themselves?'

LadyAce says, 'it's *possible* to code things, but it's not doable for builders with the current system'

Iashaylla nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'yeah, because they have traits like spells, and each spell has 3 attributes'

Iashaylla nods solemnly.

Sandra says to Styx, 'I'm really not kidding about the beer =P'

Styx says, 'oh yeah i keep forgetting im using a merc system and this is a diku'

Styx says, 'What do you have against a beerbot'

LadyAce says, 'anyway...'

Styx looks exasperated.

Kaige says to Styx, 'actually we started with merc 2.02 beta and ripped most of it to shreds'

Iashaylla says to Styx, 'they dont like ANY bot types if they can avoid it'

Ea! says, 'the mud code base here is over ten times as complex as merc.'

Iashaylla nods her agreement with Ea!.

Styx says to Kaige, 'yeah it does suck somewhat'


Code Release?

Dude says, 'isn't it a coding dept goal to release the code?'

Dude says, 'why not start now? =P'

LadyAce says, 'it's a 'someday' thing'

Kaige says, 'because frankly I'd be ashamed to let most people look at parts of it.'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Adamar says, 'you release the code and within the month somebody will try to hack the mud'

Ea! says to Dude, 'We don't feel comfortable realeasing the code in it's current condition.'

Dude says, 'oh i see, so you just put it on the website to look good then never act on it'

Iashaylla says, 'it's a "we say someday but will never do it if we can avoid it" thing'

Ea! says, 'We also need to remove all the legend-specific stuff from it.'

Clwyd says, 'Is it possible for us to help with some of the building? Room descriptions, perhaps?'

Iashaylla nods her agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says, 'it's partially a matter of style -- we want to code it in a way that it's releaseable'

Ibrahim rolls his eyes heavenward.

Kaige says, 'and when we do release it it won't be with all our internals, but a bare bones base for peopel to start from'

Dae grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'we have space for people to immort -- we don't have the extra time to administer mortal work'

Clwyd nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'and besides, it's part of the fun of being an imm, to do that designing'

Clwyd says, 'Sorry.'

LadyAce says, 'if we give up all our fun, why would we volunteer all our spare time? :)'

Clwyd smiles at LadyAce.


Way to Check Cast Level?

Adamar says, 'old question: is there a way to check spell levels'

LadyAce shakes her head.

Adamar says, 'cast level,etc'

Dude says, 'maybe there should be?'

Adamar nods his agreement with Dude.

Adamar says, 'you can even make it a mage skill to cost a practice or 2'

Dude says, 'yeah that'd be cool'


Client Compression?

Dude says, 'you know... i'm supposedly using mccp right now - but i really dont think i am'

Ea! says to Dude, 'You're not.'

Ea! says, 'Is your client set to use MCCP v2?'

Dude says, 'that program that hrath put on welcome doesn't work then'

Dude says, 'i'm running the proxy program'

Dude says, 'and redirecting to the mud through it'

Ea! says, 'you're connecting to it and letting it connect to the mud, right? That is, you're connecting to localhost port '

Dude nods his agreement with Ea!.

Dude says, 'yeah'

Tobias says to Dude, '...why? ^^;'

Dude says, 'well i had to change the config file to point towards legend'

Ea! says to Dude, 'Catch Hrath and check with him... I haven't actually looked at it myself.'

Dude says, 'yeah i talked to hrath about it'

Dude says, 'didn't really get anywhere'

Ea! sighs loudly.

Dude says, 'he told me i needed to be more verbose, and pretty much that was it'

Ea! says, 'Yeah, it's hard to figure out what's going wrong from here... All we can tell is whether you're using MCCP...'

Dude says to Ea!, 'am i now?'

Ea! says to Dude, 'Nope...'

Dude says, 'yeah the thing is screwed'

Dude chuckles politely.

Dude says, 'if i wasn't using v3.6 of zmud then i could just use mccp through the client'

Dude says, 'but man i hate the new one so much'

Dude says, 'dont like the way triggers work'

Dude says to Ea!, 'how about now?'

Ea! says to Dude, 'Yep! It's working onw.'

Dude says, 'wow'

Ea! giggles.

Tobias says to Dude, 'Now what exactly is this mccp stuffs? ^_~'

Dude says to Tobias, 'mud client compression procotal'

Dude says, 'or something like it'

Tobias says, 'oh, that thingy.'

Ea! says to Tobias, 'the more players that use it, the less lag we have.'

Kaige says, 'help mccp has some info'

Nexela says, 'how do ya use it'

Ea! says, 'so tell all your friends to install it and use it.'

Dude snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'but basically it's built into your client'

Dude says, 'not me!'

Tobias says, 'Gmud support it? ^_~'

Dude shakes Tobias's hand.

Dude says to Tobias, 'gmud is like the pinto of mud clients =P'

Adamar says, 'no gmud support'

Dude says, 'it doesn't support anything'

Kaige says to Dude, 'if you're using the most recent version of Zmud Zugg fixed several bugs with it.'

Tobias says, 'Gmud is also shiny ^_~'

Dude says to Kaige, 'hey i have v3.6 here =P'

Dude says, 'and i hate the new ones'

Kaige says, 'help mccp also lists what supports it.'

Adamar says, 'www.randomly.org/projects/mccp'

Dude says, 'downloaded and tried it, absolutely hate it'

Tobias says to Dude, 'I have to abuse Hrath some. I officially have been driven insane by FreeBSD ^_~'

Nexela starts writing on a small piece of paper from Nexela.

Kaige says, 'which reminds me... we should note that there about zmud'

Adamar says, 'gmud is still better than zmud in one area, gmud is free'

Dude says, 'my version is free too =P'

Tobias says, 'Free legally ^_~'

Ea! says, 'even if you client doesn't support MCCP, you should take a look at the Proxy that Hrath posted about on the board. Basically, you run it on your machine and connect to it, and it connects to the mud using MCCP.'

Tobias says, 'board? ^^;'

Tobias says, 'I'm blind.'

Clwyd says, 'What is a procsy?'

Dude says, 'yeah you have to alter the mcclient.cfg file tho'

Ibrahim nods his agreement with Tobias.

Dude says, 'open it in notepad and replace the default mud with mud.legendmud.org:9999'

Tobias says, 'what port is this gonna run on?'

Dude says, '4242 mud.legendmud.org 9999'

Dude says, '4444 mud.legendmud.org 9999'

Dude says, 'thats what the config needs to have'

Serenity bounces onto LadyAce's lap.

Serenity says, 'i think i'm late'

Serenity scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Dude says, 'i figured that out all on my own - i was really impressed :)'

Nexela finishes writing on a small piece of paper from Nexela.

Clwyd says, 'What's a procsy??'

Kaige says, 'a proxy is something that does things for you instead of yourself.'

Kaige says, 'it acts as an intermediary on your behalf.'

Dude says, 'right... it also redirects your data packets to another place'

Clwyd says, 'And how is it used?'

Kaige says, 'so in this case... the proxy software talk between the mud and your client translating things so they both understand to use the compression protocol.'

Serenity starts writing on a small piece of paper from Serenity.

Clwyd is completely boggled.

LadyAce says, 'you send your traffic to it, it does something, and sends it along for you'

Serenity finishes writing on a small piece of paper from Serenity.

Clwyd says to Kaige, 'eh?'

Clwyd says, 'How do I send traffic to it?'

Kaige points at LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'what she said'

Tobias says, 'Well, that made it laggy as...insanity ^_~'

Dude says, 'i find it faster'

Tobias says, 'Heh.'

Dude says, 'but thats prolly all in my head'

Tobias says, 'Why'd you make me enter legenmud twice?'

Straussy tips his hat gallantly.

Dude jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Straussy!

Nexela goes EEK! at Straussy in distress - isn't Straussy an awful person for teasing?

Tobias says, 'You just set whatever port you want localhost to listen to on the left, it looks like.'

Adamar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tobias says, 'Its speeding up now.'

Nexela tickles Serenity.

Serenity giggles.

Serenity smiles at Nexela.

Tobias says to Ea!, 'So this makes it less of a strain on the mud machine, but does it improve it for the client regardless?'

Serenity peers around the room intently.

Kaige says, 'it should since theoretically the packets it's sending are smaller'

Ea! says to Tobias, 'It'll make it *slightly* faster regardless, but it's real advantage will be if we can get a bunch of people using it.'

Tobias nods solemnly.

Dude says, 'mud.legendmud.org:9999: decompressed 7450 -> 47112 bytes, 84.3%'

Dude says, 'hehe'

Dude is doing his part!

Nexela goes EEK! at Dude in distress - isn't Dude an awful person for teasing?

Tobias says, 'Yet another program I get to have running standalone, blah ^_~'

Tobias says, 'lemme go add it to the startup...'

Dude laughs with amusement.

Adamar says, 'so i need to buy zmud to install MCCP in order to help the mud slow down lag'

Kaige says, 'Total uncompressed: 79253538, Total compressed: 4856577, Total bytes: 111844599'

Tobias says to Adamar, 'Nope!'

Nexela peers around the room intently.

Straussy says, '79megs?'

Dude says, 'so in theory could you make it work in reverse? =P'

Dude throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Nexela gives Serenity a great big smooch!

Kaige says to Straussy, 'that's what we've had go through since start up'

Serenity smiles happily.

Straussy shivers uncomfortably.

Kaige says, 'with bandwidth on just the mud... that's about 3246 chars/second'

Nexela whistles appreciatively.

Kaige says, 'doesn't count bandwith on other stuff like the web or cvs transferring stuff'

Check HELP COMPRESSION and HELP MCCLIENT for more information and a step by step set of instructions for getting Mcclient up and running on windows.


What do Imms Want?

Clwyd says, 'What do the immortals want from the players?'

LadyAce says, 'primarily, I think, we want players to have fun and be good to each other'

LadyAce says, 'learn a little, grow a little, be better people for having been here :)'

Dude says, 'had'

Clwyd says to LadyAce, 'Do you think we are succeeding?'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes you do, sometimes you don't :) same with the imm staff and its goals'


Expies Ballots?

Adamar says, 'who do i talk to about getting an expie ballot'

LadyAce says to Adamar, 'send mail to [email protected] and ask for one'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'www.legendmud.org/Community/expie.php should have a request form on it.'

Kaige says, 'sends it directly to you when you request it too'


Dip Changes?

Ibrahim says, 'I have just been wondering about "dip" for a time. It seems a bit overpowered not to be a skill, or it could be extended to be something you could also pour over a weapon and then there's a chance of the effect going off the first tim'

Ibrahim says, 'first time you hit something'

Ea! says, 'Huginn's working on some changes to dip, but hasn't had much time to look into them. I forget just what the changes are, though.'

Ea! sighs at himself. What a sorry sight.

Ibrahim nods solemnly.

Ibrahim says, 'well, I'm just curious'

LadyAce says, 'if you use idea to suggest your thoughts on it, they'll go into a file where he can see them'

Ibrahim nods solemnly.

Ibrahim thinks he did once, but it's probably more than a year ago.

Ibrahim says to LadyAce, 'But I could do it again, unless you stil have those lists'

LadyAce says, 'well, it won't hurt, certainly'

Ibrahim nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'It seems like we've covered all the questions :)'

Straussy smiles at LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'so thank you all for coming, I hope it's been as informative for you as it's been pleasant for us :)'

Adamar smiles at LadyAce.

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

Kaige says, 'thanks for coming!'


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