Lecture Series Index

February 7th, 2002

Q & A Index

Topics Covered

Why is Levelling Mages Hard?
Two Exits to one House?
Low Move Homunculi?
Changes to Pkill Coming?
Hitroll & Damroll Balance
Why's Hydra so Hard?
Possibility of New Weapons?
Armslore & Rand Stats?
Command to Damage Eq?

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Why is Levelling Mages Hard?

Azkar says, 'why's it take so long to level newbie mages?'

Azkar ducks to the ground.

Julia says, 'it does?'

LadyAce says, 'mages are slow to start if you don't get them fighting stats/skills'

Boreas says, 'why's it so fast to level newbie snipers?'

LadyAce says, 'which isn't a big surprise :)'

Kaige says, 'and cats seem to hate them... at least mine'

Kaige sulks in the corner.

Julia says, 'ok, this one was slower, due to time ... but my last mage was lvl 31 in a week, and I work 4 days a week.'

Azkar says, 'takes me forever, i refuse to quest :p'

Boreas says, 'I went pretty fast because I teamed up with another lowbie mage. You should try that--it helps a lot'

Julia says, 'one skill helps levelling so much ... it's worth it.'

Azkar says to Boreas, 'the only way i get people to help me is by telling them my alts :p'

Boreas goes EEK! at Azkar in distress - isn't Azkar an awful person for teasing?

Boreas says to Azkar, 'I 'elp mages with words and things of that nature, no matter ooh they are'

Azkar can get most of the words, the problem is getting the practices.


Two Exits to one House?

Nobyar says, 'i wanna have two exits on my house can that happen?'

LadyAce says, 'we don't have a way to do that'

Ea! says, 'You can't right now. It's a coding problem. We might do that at some point, but we don't have plans to do so currently.'

LadyAce says, 'we'd want the code to be able to navigate around and make sure it was all logical to have an entrance in one place and the exit in another'

Nobyar nods solemnly.

Boreas says to LadyAce, 'put secret escape tunnels on your castles!'


Low Move Homunculi?

Julia says, 'ok, I was low mind and low cast level ... but my first homunculi at lvl 25 had 4 move.'

Julia says, 'I thought they were supposed to have more move than they used to?'

Julia says, 'the 2nd one had 8 move.'

Ea! says, 'on average they do.'

Azkar says, 'kinda scary when a newbie has more move then your homunculus'

Julia says, 'can you put a lower limit on their move, like half mind of the creator?'

Boreas says, '4 is ridiculously low'

Julia says, 'especially since they only regen one move per tick when they're level 1.'

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, 'I dunno, I'll think about it. I'm not sure I want to much with the formula.'

Julia says, 'it kinda defeats the purpose ... unless I want to spend 20 mana (plus 10 per fail ...) every 4 or 5 rooms.'

Julia nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'Well, I don't mind homunculi being weak at low levels.'

Ea! says, 'but I'll think about it.'


Changes to Pkill Coming?

Nobyar says, 'there gonna be any changes to pk after the most recent poll results, such as tick timer or any of that stuff?'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we've come to any decisions in that area'

Kaige says, 'we really haven't had a chance to disucss all that yet with everything else we've been doing lately'

LadyAce says, 'I wouldn't expect any changes for some weeks, regardless'

Nobyar nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, '...that's if we make any at all :)'


Hitroll & Damroll Balance

Chunk says, 'im still concerned about hitroll..'

Chunk scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Boreas nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'it seems in order for damroll to be effective you need around 25-30 hitroll min'

Azkar nods his agreement with Chunk.

Boreas says, 'you can hit well with high hitroll and no dam, but not with high damroll and not hitroll. It's a discrepancy'

Chunk says, 'and i can see it being done close with old gear.. but with the new gear its hard as heck to get good hitroll and damroll'

Ea! says, 'We don't have any plans to make changes to the balance of hitroll or damroll any time soon.'

Julia says, 'its weird when I damage mob eq with my negative damroll.'

Boreas nods her agreement with Chunk.

Jacob nods solemnly.

Boreas says, 'we think you should make plans ;)'

Chunk says, 'it just concerns me is all.. im not overly bothered with it.. i just think if you took out all old gear and had more players going nuts over how it isnt that great with new gear'

Chunk says, 'you could see that hitroll is really hurting a lot of stuff'

LadyAce says, 'there's a lot of people getting a lot of xp out there without tons of hitroll (it seems like to me) ... given the rate of people going over 100 mil'

Chunk says, 'those ppl going over 100 mil are healers and create mages who can solo stuff =p'

LadyAce says, 'It's hard to know what we should use to judge, but seeing how many more 100mil+ people we have these days, it must not be impossible to be successful'

Kaige says, 'could just be the xp loss cap is too lo for deaths'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

LadyAce says, 'ok, but *someone* is killing the mobs :)'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'I think there's no question about that one.'

Boreas says, 'I just think that the same thing that was done with hp/mana and +hp/mana gear should have been done with hit/dam'

Jacob says, 'personally i think the exp we get from mobs is too low compared to what is lost on a death'

Chunk says, 'my healer still hasnt hit 100mil so either im doing something wrong or i just cant find a tanky type to run with all the time =p'

Julia says, 'part of the reason for that 100 million + is pkok. People aren't archiving/retiring, they're still playing their pkillers.'

Chunk points proudly at himself.

Drakus says, 'At 50, it's what? 750K for dying?'

Chunk says, 'i still got 30mil to go! and im 5-6 years old!'

Chunk peers at himself myopically.

Lachesis pets Chunk lovingly.

Drakus says, 'Blah. I'm a semi decent create and I could MAYBE at most get about 200K for one mob.'

Jacob nods his agreement with Drakus.

Drakus says, 'But if ya die once.... oh boy -> 750K down.'

Drakus says, 'Then a boar or the pookah taps ya.... 1.5Million down.'

Azkar nods solemnly.

Drakus says to Kaige, 'Maybe the cap is too low??'

Drakus hangs his head.

Chunk says, 'back to hitroll..'

Chunk says, 'like someone had stated.. high hitroll no damroll doesnt help much.. and neither does high damroll low hitroll..'

Azkar says, 'my hitters have decent hitting, they aren't consistant.'

Lachesis blinks at Drakus.

Azkar nods his agreement with Chunk.

Chunk says, 'and atm it is kinda hard to get decent hit/dam with new gear and be as affective as you would like to be'

Boreas says, 'high hitroll no damroll isn't so bad. My sniper is like that and decimates pretty consistently'

Chunk says, 'not saying anything about solo'n mobs.. or whatnot.. just hitting in general'

Julia nods her agreement with Boreas.

Azkar says, 'which would mean its just not balanced'

Chunk says, 'i think hitting needs to be looked at again, something just dont feel right'

Julia says, 'my mages are high hit/usually -1 or 0 dam ... they decimate consistently.'

Boreas says, 'of course, that char has a small amount of old gear'

Azkar bonks Boreas on the head!

Azkar says to Boreas, 'then that comment doesn't count'

Boreas says, 'what is high hit these days anyway? 100 dex only gives you 25'

Kaige says, 'the average for all the level 50 chars that have logged in since we started up is +16 +16'

Boreas scuffles dirt onto Azkar's shoes.

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.

Jacob says, 'i decimated once today, on a townsperson in salem'

Jacob says, '1 hit 6 damroll :P'

Boreas says to Jacob, 'but aren't you con?'

Boreas nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'well considering 100 stat is a natural 23.. isnt that 16/16 ave low?'

Julia says, 'my dex mages might wear a pair of riding gloves and silver feather ... usually 27-30 ish str. No old eq. They decimate consistently. So high hit/low dam isn't a problem.'

Boreas says, 'and that having high hit/dam used to be 40/40+'

Chunk nods his agreement with Boreas.

Drakus looks up into the sky and snickles.

Boreas says, 'with monsters at 60+'

Chunk says, 'my mage has around 30 damroll but like 10 hitroll.. and has a hard time decimating.. which just isnt right'

LadyAce says, 'an average of 16 means that there are people much higher and people much lower, though.'

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Boreas says, 'I don't care if mages can't decimate. It's when the pure fighters don't hit hard that there is a problem.'

Chunk says, 'i think that average is way low..'

Kasmir says, 'i have a whole 34 dam with 95 str, and 7 hit with 38 dex'

Boreas says to LadyAce, 'is that average including people with old eq?'

Chunk says, 'like i said.. 100 stat = 23 natural.. and 16 average is kinda low'

Chunk says to Boreas, 'ofcourse it is'

Julia says, 'The high dam/low hit problem is why I never play str. The only str char I ever had was when grad stats came in, someone talked me into switching a spam druid from dex to str.'

Kaige says, 'it's all level 50 chars'

LadyAce says to Boreas, 'I think we're down to only a few people having the old eq, and I'm not sure if any of them are even on....'

Kaige says, 'that have been on since werebooted'

Julia says, 'that 16/16 is probably because the latest fashion seems to be con mages with 0/0.'

Shane says, 'almost all old gear hit 27 dam 47 91 str 81 dex'

Chunk says, 'it takes old gear to get up to around 40/40 imho'

Boreas nods her agreement with Chunk.

Shane says, 'you could do it, but probably wouldn't have much of a character'

Chunk says, 'and i base 30hit/40 dam as the lowest ammount to rip/cap decently'

Chunk says to Shane, 'a lot lately have dropped perception to 0 to hit it'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we have any other things to add to the discussion on the imm side ... we haven't made any changes for a while.'

Shane says, 'they made perc worthless'

Chunk says, 'i know of a ton of battledruids going str and dropping perception to 0 to get highest hit/dam they can'

LadyAce says, 'does anyone else have a question?'

Chunk sighs loudly.

Raifire waves happily.

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'brief ending statement.. mind if you start something on the discussion and get players hitting stats and take a look at it?'

Chunk scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Chunk says, 'that way you can have something to add ;)'

Shane says, 'i dont care what they do to old eq, but i do care if they remove it and leave me naked'

LadyAce says, 'if you'd like to start a thread on discussion you're welcome to ....'

Chunk says to Shane, 'they replaced the old krakens etc on pfiles im sure they would just replace it'

Julia says, 'how much old hit/dam eq is still around (apart from archived players)'

Shane says, 'im sorry chunk lost all his old gear, i've kept mine for years on end and don't think its right'

Ea! says to Chunk, 'If we get time, we'll look at it. I'm extremely hesitant to make any promisies to work on balance changes since they take a lot of time.'

Chunk says to Shane, 'i junked mine but its ok ;)'

Boreas says, 'but to the players, it is worth it'

Timmy nods his agreement with Boreas.

Shane says, 'thats your right, leave other's alone'

Timmy says, 'so you're gonna leave it unbalanced and practically force people to making mages cause they're more powerful?'

Julia says, 'the problem with changing pfiles is that some of these things lost stats that people might need.'

Timmy says, 'kinda sad when a fighter is out fought by a mage...and the mage doesnt have to use magic'

Chunk says, 'yeah inspire to a mage being a pure fighter and being out tanked is funny'

Chunk giggles.

Boreas says, 'heck, just get rid of all +hit/dam'

Timmy says, 'or even a 2c mage'

LadyAce says, 'fighters in general have a disadvantage because they don't have any abilities a mage can't also get'

Timmy says to Boreas, 'nooooooo i like my 47 dam :p'

Ea! says, 'the real problems with pure fighters vs. pure mages require a major rewrite to large portions of the code to fix. We don't have the time to do that right now.'

LadyAce says, 'that's always been the case, nothing to do with hi/dam'

Boreas nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Ea! nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Timmy says to LadyAce, 'i'm disregarding the spells and saying the mage doesn't use them'

Boreas says, 'master weapon profs!'

Ea! says, 'Which is why it's a major rewrite...'

Timmy says, 'hand to hand crap'

Shane gets a free slaying coupon from Zandy from an orange and red satin top-hat.

LadyAce says to Timmy, 'no spells at all, I can't see how that'd be the case ....'

Boreas says, 'basic, advanced, expert, then master available only to med/indust hometowns'

Timmy says, 'cause my other str fighter gets killed by a 2c battle druid allllllll the time'

LadyAce says, 'if a fighter can get better results with mage stats, why doesn't he go get mage stats? :P'

LadyAce says, 'well, battle druid would be a different discussion than mage vs fighters :P'

Julia says, 'even when we all had old hit/dam, pure fighters had a hard time against pure mages or battledruids.'

Shane says, 'funny its always the pkillers that whine about mages being too powerful'

Boreas says, 'that's because non-pkers don't mind if others are powerful'

Julia says, 'and non-pkers don't see why their chars should be downgraded to suit the pkers'

Shane says, 'or we cry cause a druid has some fight skills and can kick our asses'

Shane says, 'im tired of being told we can't do this no more cause the pkillers cry and whine all the time about something, I wouldn't mind seeing a change in favor of the majority of use that aren't enabled'

Chunk says, 'oh so you wouldnt mind the majority that says yank old hit/dam gear ;)'

Chunk says, 'good!'

Ea! says, 'The larger problem here is that there isn't enough breadth for characters. That is, to be successful you need to have a bit of everything.'

Chunk ducks to the ground.

Ea! says, 'Specialization does not work as well as we'd like.'

Julia says, 'I don't pk, so it really annoys me when my favourite char types get downgraded because of some 'balance' issue that I never noticed.'

Ea! says, 'This is one of the big problems that we had hoped skill trees would fix. In fact, it's next to impossible to fix it without adding tons of skills like that.'

Shane says, 'its hard enough making a mage as it is, with the crappy creation rolls, some rolls are just way too balanced to suit me'

Ea! says, 'But we don't have the time to do that. That's why we put skilltrees on indefinate hold.'

Chunk nods his agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says to Shane, 'well, at this point, it's not a minority who's enabled. But it's a minority who has that oldstyle pk orientation'

Chunk says, 'skilltrees means new hometowns new char types.. new lots of stuffs'

Boreas says, 'why can't you implement a few skills without all of skilltrees?'

Shane says, 'you make a mage with mind first str last, your mind is almost the same as your spirit'

Ea! says, 'because it's not just a few skills that are needed.'

Ea! says, 'It's a lot of skills, and it's a way to keep them balanced so that it's hard to be a bit of everything.'

Shane says, 'that means you have to either play to level 10 and see the stats or trash the character right away,'

Shane says, 'kasmir went thru 5 remakes cause his mind wasn't high enough to even get vid'

Chunk is completely boggled.

Ea! says, 'right now, if we did the balance stuff of 'trees and only added a couple of skills, you'd all find yourself with 20-30 free practices.'

Boreas says, 'most non-mages have 10-15'

Julia says, 'ooh, 20-30 pracs'

Chunk says, 'ive never had a problem with how legend rolls stats.. i have always been able to work around any stat given to me'

Julia drools contentedly.

Aidan says, 'i have that many anyway'

Boreas nods her agreement with Aidan.

Ea! says, 'Okay, let me rephrase that. You'd find yourself with 10-15 more free practices than you currently have.'

Boreas says, 'and no skills to use them on'

Shane says, 'i have none cause we were told 4-5 years ago to use em all, or lose em by ptah so they could put skill trees in, now i have a whole list of skills ic an't even use anymore'

Shane says, 'can't get anything new'

Boreas says to Shane, 'ooh, can you build ships?'

Shane says, 'its bad enough being from lima'

Shane says, 'actually i dont have ship building listed'

Ea! says, 'I dunno, I really like my lima character. He's a non-mage with 0 free practices who uses almost all of his skills regularly.'

Aidan says, 'my liman's stuck'

Shane says, '14 of 50 skills are useless to me'

Ea! says, 'He's a lot of fun to play because he can do a bit of everything, though perhaps not as well as specialists.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Ea!.

Shane says, 'its too hard to go back to surgery/hitting'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'one of my favorite chars was from lima'

Shane says, 'so i kept the gear that let me hit'

Boreas says, 'there is very little point to lima.'

Ea! says, 'And it's very frustrating to explore new areas with other characters because I really miss having night vision.'

Ea! giggles.

Shane says, 'its too damn far out of the way for one'

Shane says, 'i dont think i set foot in there except to learn the fencing'

Ea! says, 'I dunno, there are a bunch of levels where it's a really good place to get xp.'

Julia says, 'and cash'

Boreas says, 'it's good for newbie gear'

Shane says, 'yeah at level 20 we can kill an innkeeper that cons as easy and eats your eq'

Ea! says, 'Hm. I hadn't even thought about that. I'll have to give it a try for money running.'

Julia says, 'there's a low level item that's a good item for cash.'

Julia says, 'on one of the lowish mobs. There's three or four of the mob, but only 1 has the item that sells for 2840 coins at andreev.'

Shane says, 'should put that act on richard people will leave him alone'

Julia nods her agreement with Shane.

Shane says, 'i probably would find new gear that i like better, i just never messed around with it, and its kind of hard to do it when you are at max rent'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Shane says, 'but since I played ostly mages hit/dam is really not my subject'

Kaige says, 'that's a choice you have to make'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

ScarTissue says, 'what is this a Imm Q&A?'

ScarTissue snickers softly.

Kaige peers at ScarTissue, looking him up and down.

Boreas says, 'it always is'

Julia says, 'when I've tried building str chars I can't believe how badly they hit. Maybe it's the weapon weight ... so you get less swings and even less chance of hitting.'

ScarTissue snickers softly.

Shane says, 'im not fond of str characters'

Shane says, 'esp str mages, i've had too many problems with kasmir'

Boreas says, 'I usually go str/dex, so hitting isn't *too* bad, but then hp suck'

ScarTissue says, 'I have had wonderfull luck with all my char hitting hard even when their little'

Julia says, 'I played one to 10 and abandoned it. And I had one I switched to str at lvl 40ish when grad stats came in.'

Kaige says to Julia, 'that's part of it. I'd think if you want a slow weapon you want to make sure you can hit with it as well... if you have a faster weapon you can afford to let luck play more of a factor'

Shane says, 'ive abandoned several str mages, cause they are too annoying'

Julia says, 'but that means you need hitroll ... to be able to hit with it.'

Chunk nods his agreement with Shane.

Kaige says, 'but that's my own experience with a str char talking, not code spreadsheet jockeying'

Shane says, 'i dont like dex mages, solaris is almost as old as i am and is still sitting at level 16 with 200k exp'

Boreas says, 'I like dex mages ;)'

Chunk says, 'hehe talk to sandra she looooooves dex mages =p'

ScarTissue says, 'I've had str con and dex hitters and it all just matters on your eq set-up'

Julia says, 'I LOVE dex mages.'

Julia beams at a rough dagger delightedly - such materialism!

Kaige says to ScarTissue, 'and your tactics with how you use your char'

Kaige chuckles politely.

ScarTissue says, 'I don't play cross-chars though so.....'

ScarTissue nods his agreement with Kaige.


Why's Hydra so Hard?

Drakus says, 'I have a question... why is the LErna Swamp Hydra so darn hard to kill, for a measily 100k... >=('

LadyAce says to Drakus, 'use idea to suggest that it be looked at?'

Drakus sighs loudly.


Possibility of New Weapons?

Shane says, 'i'd like to see some better con weapons, brahman is nice, im not to fond of whats his names staff, too damn heavy'

Chunk says, 'heh ive always said we should have a ton more weapons!'

Boreas says, 'I would like to see more super-light weapons'

Julia nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'i like the fact of 4-5 weapons that are made the same but are slightly different'

Boreas says, 'maybe q5 foils and rapiers.'

Julia says, 'a light +5 dex dagger that hits like it's Q5. The dolch doesn't.'

Shane says, 'i dont care that they are super light, i dont want to have to add more str then i need, 40 should be sufficient to pick a damn stick and wield it'

Boreas says, 'a dagger the weight of the main gauche, but q5 with net 5 stats'

ScarTissue says, 'I think we need maybe a few more of all the diff catigorie weapons for more choice and veriaty'

Julia nods her agreement with Boreas.

Chunk says, 'i still want to see more whip weapons! nod slef'

Chunk nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Boreas giggles at Chunk.

Shane says, 'make a 10 con -5 dex staf i dont care :P'

Chunk winks suggestively at Boreas.

ScarTissue says, 'I hate seeing all the lvl 50 chars using just one or two different weapons in their class'

Shane says, 'id like to see more hammers and axes and stuff'

Boreas says, 'maybe like a shillelagh as an ultra-light con weapon'

LadyAce says, 'use idea to suggest what new items you think make sense'

ScarTissue says, 'more GOOD choices would add more veriaty to the mud'

Shane says, 'you get tired of requipping a char with the same old stuff all the time, and i do try to change, but end up going back to what worked before'

LadyAce says, 'or to suggest changes that would make a particular weapon worth using'

Kaige says to Boreas, 'I checked on the time period for those, and that name is too late for Tara'

ScarTissue says, 'I know it's easier said then done'

Boreas nods her agreement with Kaige.

Julia says, 'I'd like to see a clone of the old main gauche, with old rent, no suscept/resists. Nice lowbie weapon.'

Kaige thinks if more people explored, maybe they'd find new stuff sometimes too

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Chunk giggles.

Kaige says, 'but I'll make that my next building crusade'

Boreas says, 'but we're afraid of dts'

Shane says, 'wel ive pretty much been evey where there is to go :P'

ScarTissue applauds Kaige's quick thinking and good judgment.

Shane says, 'jacob even found a dt i never knew about on xmas'

Chunk says to Kaige, 'i did see a nice str weapon on someone the other night i gotta figure out what it was'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Chunk says to Kaige, 'that comment just reminded me to look around =p'

Julia says, 'when something says on the board 'one new item' in an area ... I think 'am I going to have to kill every mob to find it? or is it some new questy thing''

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.

Julia says, 'or I think am I going to go do my xp run or cash run or whatever?'

ScarTissue says, 'a flail or too of high quality would be nice'

Kaige says to Julia, 'could be either'

Kaige says, 'I just go by what the builders tell me'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Chunk says, 'hehe i see the 1 new item thing and go.. thats a lot of mobs to cover and test before i find it =p'

Julia says, 'well, the go do my regular runs sounds more fun than killing every mob in an area for a new item.'

LadyAce says, 'we don't necessarily want to just hand it to you'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'have to give the explorer types something to do too'

LadyAce says, 'it's not that we expect you to go kill every mob...just to keep an eye out'

Boreas says, 'I had a lot of fun looking for the hol clones when they went in. Just went to mobs that I remembered being hard but without good eq, and looked for what seemed unfamiliar'

ScarTissue says, 'have a little druid to lvl be back maybe'

Julia says, 'but that was more items. And I had fun finding stuff.'

LadyAce says, 'if the weapon's improved, the mob will be harder or seem different in some way'

ScarTissue waves happily.

Julia says, 'I think I even found one of the last items to be found among people I know.'

Boreas says to LadyAce, 'well, that's very subjective. A lot of mobkill is luck. A mob may seem a lot more difficult just because it happened to land bashes this tim'

Julia says, 'and you may be killing it with a different alt.'

Julia says, 'or the item may have grad stats, and you get a +3 item and you think 'oh, newbie eq'.'

Kaige says, 'random not grad'

Julia says, 'sorry :) meant random.'

Boreas says, 'and not so many people have armslore, so it may be hard to tell looking at a weapon if it has improved. You can't just wear it to see like other gear'

Kaige offers everyone a bowl of garlic-herb chicken and Monterey Spaghetti.

Shane says, 'i woudn't object to items having varied stats, if some of the variations weren't so stupid'

Boreas grumbles about a silver ring.

Julia says, 'see, if the first time I'd killed Aloph I'd got his no-stat ring, I'd never have bothered killing him again.'

Boreas says, 'or items that load randomly. That's worse in a way'

Kaige says, 'I also think this is another place that the db and stat computing programs have done a disservice rather than a service for the general players... no one wants to look further'

Boreas says, 'I disagree. I think a lot of people may take pride in finding an item that they know isn't even on the db'

Boreas says, 'or a quest, or whatever'

Julia says, 'I trust my own data more than any db.'

Azkar says, 'there's no such thing as not on the db'

Kaige says, 'a lot do.. but a lot don't get that far when they're introduced to them too early before they've had a chance to experience that on their own'

LadyAce hugs Julia.

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.


Armslore & Rand Stats?

Chunk says, 'could we make armslore have a msg of how lucky you are to have found such and such item in good condition or something to relate to it being a possible random stat item?'

Chunk says, 'that would be a neat armslore.. since i like that skill anyway'

Chunk flops about helplessly.

Julia says, 'that'd only work for weapons'

LadyAce says, 'put that in via idea? I'm not sure that it's an easy thing to be done'

LadyAce says, 'after the item is loaded, it stops knowing that it's random'

Chunk says, 'yeah it would.. but then maybe id item magic spell could also for other items'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'so that info would have to be saved with the item'

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.

Chunk says, 'sounds too hard to do'

Kaige says, 'and the condition thing sounds like it's talking about damage not stats'

Julia says, 'or use appraise maybe ... make it useful ... something that says something about unique or rare ... so you know it comes in other varieties.'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Chunk nods his agreement with Julia.

Julia says, 'appraise could give fairly common for an item that doesn't have variations.'

Kaige says, 'a typical specimen'

Julia nods solemnly.

Boreas says, 'totally normal looking'

Chunk says, 'im just thinking of something nifty we can use for the help of varying stated items'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Nexela peers around the room intently.

Nexela flexes his bulging, impressive muscles.

Chunk says, 'dont mind me =p'

Kaige says, 'idea file... but I'd have to dig into how hard it would be to do that.'

LadyAce says to Chunk, 'put that in via idea?'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

LadyAce points at Krynn.

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'cause I'm not sure if we can reference the randomness of it easily'

Nexela pokes Chunk in the ribs.


Command to Damage Eq?

Krynn says, 'can we have a command to intentionally damage our own items?'

Kaige peers at Krynn, looking him up and down.

Nexela peers at Krynn, looking him up and down.

Azkar says, 'why the hell would you wanna do that?'

Azkar snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'you can put them on the ground and firestorm :)'

Kaige says, 'just less severely than oh say... junk?'

Krynn says, 'well, save i've got this Knight's Code of Conduct zip'

Krynn says, 'and i want it falling apart'

Azkar laughs with amusement.

Nexela laughs at Krynn.

Kaige says, 'hire a mage'

Krynn says, 'i'd like a command to break it :)'

LadyAce says, 'better RP to hire a mage'

Krynn says, 'i think it would be much more effecient to just beat it with a hammer'

Nexela nods his agreement with Krynn.

Krynn says, 'oh well, time to bug my cause mages'

Boreas says, 'or "accidentally" leave it in your pants pocket when you do laundry'

LadyAce says, 'I think the global benefit of a skill like that is too small relative to the ease of asking a cause mage.'

Azkar laughs with amusement.

LadyAce giggles at Boreas.

Krynn says to LadyAce, 'had to try'

Julia says, 'hit a gravity room?'

LadyAce smiles at Krynn.

LadyAce says to Julia, 'ooh, good thinkin'

LadyAce says, 'or fight a mob that firestorms'

Azkar says to Krynn, 'step on it a few times'

Nexela breaks a longsword with a rock.

LadyAce says, 'throw it out of the window of your private plane sometime :)'

Azkar says, 'then he'd lose it'

Boreas says, 'take it to show and tell and let the grubby kindergarteners pet it'

LadyAce says to Azkar, 'maybe he could smell it from a mile away :) can't lose it'

Krynn says to LadyAce, 'that's the issue, i wanna damage one item, not all of mine :)'

Azkar says to LadyAce, 'smell the crap from the pages?'

LadyAce says to Krynn, 'right, so go fly and then drop it'

Krynn says, 'good call'

Julia says, 'drop all in a house, take the item and go hit a gravity room.'

Krynn says, 'done that a few times, kinda hurts too'

LadyAce says to Azkar, 'Smell the sweetness of its nobility :P'

Krynn fell out of a hot air baloon.

LadyAce giggles at Krynn.

Kaige says, 'oops'

Krynn says, 'jumped out, was still kinda funny to watch'

Azkar says to LadyAce, 'knights are just a bunch of well nevermind'

Shane says, 'go fly dispel magic and watch yourself fall'

Azkar ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says to Azkar, 'Imms are OOC :)'

Shane says, 'go to above the clouds in somme'

Azkar says to LadyAce, 'me too'

Krynn says to Shane, 'done it ealready, didn' tknow you could damage items by dropping em like that'

LadyAce chuckles politely at Azkar's feeble witticism.

Julia says, 'or the room in tudor, drop it from the nest above the lamp post'

Boreas waves happily.

LadyAce says, 'well, it looks like we've covered most of the stuff. I hafta go regardless :) I'll see you guys next time'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Nexela leaves east in a big jet plane.

LadyAce waves happily.

Kaige says, 'thanks for coming! Rememebr next week is the expies ceremony!'

Krynn jumps up and down.

Krynn says, 'expies are gonna be fun'

Kaige waves happily.


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