Lecture Series Index

July 25th, 2002

Q & A Index

Reminder: Q&A Sessions re now being held at 7pm System time on Thursdays.

Topics Covered

Rent Changes/Specs?
Imm Applications & Qualities
Specific Imm for Complaints?
New Areas?
Industrial Era Discussion
A Strength Spear?
Guns Shooting > 1 Room?
More Changes for Creates?
Homunculi Don't Fight?
Bodily Functions?
Why is Skyblade Quest So Long?
Hell, Dante, & Larderello
Hometown Skill Changes?
Guns & Distance 2
Bows & "Realism"?
What was with the Snowballs?
PKOK Discussion
Controlling the Weather?
Homunculi: Take 2
Character Type Diversity
Pistol Whip?
Positions & Aim & Bugs
What affects Movement?

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Rent Changes/Specs?

Gondar says, 'I was wondering, the rent change on the aussy tokens, is that to bring them into spec?'

Kaige says, 'man.. that was so long ago..'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Gondar says, 'well, not for me it wasn't. . .'

Gondar chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'I wanna say so...'

Cymo snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'Deanna noticed they were lower than they should have been and fixed it a while back.'

Kaige says, 'those tokens were changed back in March 1998 so.. yeah.. it's been a while'

Gondar says, 'the reason I was wondering, is that some eq seems overly renty for what you get, and they haven't been lowered, yet the tokens were raised'

LadyAce says, 'anything in particular?'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes things are more expensive than spec, for a variety of reasons -- ease of getting them, fancy materials, etc.'

Gondar says, 'all the weapons in Klein, Fithy's coin. . .'

Kaige says, 'the "specs" note a minimum, not a maximum or absolute... and there's often other factors that players don't know about or consider'

LadyAce says, 'they're all in spec as far as I know. Weapons are spendy'

Kaige says, 'but if you note them specifically using idea, we can look at them'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Gondar says, 'yeah, but Klein weapons, mostly, have no stats (that I know of) they just big heavy and renty'

Incubus says to Gondar, 'but theyre q4 arent they?'

LadyAce says, 'well, they're not that tough to get, and there's a lot of them...and not everything is going to have stats, particularly in a situation like that.'

LadyAce says, 'for a weapon to be q5, that's already 2500 rent, and that's before it even does any damage :)'

Mounty whistles appreciatively.

Ea! says, 'They make good animated weapons, though.'

Gondar nods solemnly.

Ea! nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Straussy chuckles politely.

Gondar says to Ea!, 'that they do'

Incubus says, 'some of us cant animate weapons... or hold them for that matter...'

Incubus sighs loudly.

Ea! nods his agreement with Incubus.

Mounty chuckles politely at Incubus's feeble witticism.

Ea! says, 'Yeah, I know that feeling, too.'

LadyAce says, 'the other thing is that heavy weapons are always more expensive'

Ea! giggles.

Mounty says to Incubus, 'the down side fo being a surgy'

Incubus nods his agreement with Mounty.

LadyAce says, 'the spec increases the rent for each extra hp of maxdam'

Gondar nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'so since heavy weapons tend to also be big maxdam ....'

Incubus says, 'is that why vlad's sword is so renty... oh... ithougt just cuz it was silvery and all...'

LadyAce says, 'that one's a bit of a leftover from an older system where you didn't swing x times and hit y times.'

LadyAce says, 'vlad's sword is also renty from having cool stuff on it :P'

Incubus says, 'oh yeah i knew that'

Tima giggles.

Gondar says, 'then why is umm. . . whats his name, oh yeah, Herne! Why is his sword so renty? cause of the kool fire?'

Gondar chuckles politely.

Straussy says, 'Herne wanted it that way'

Incubus says, 'yeah hernes sword isnt that amazing good...'

Incubus looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige has created a great sword burning with Sidhe fire!

Gondar chuckles politely at Straussy's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'is too :P'

Mounty says, 'whats hernes sword?'

Incubus tugs on Kaige's sleeve imploringly.

Incubus says, 'can i have that'

LadyAce giggles.

Kaige says, 'it does other stuff too'

Kaige eats a great sword burning with Sidhe fire.

Incubus says, 'isnt that spicy??'

Mounty says, 'nice'

Straussy says to Incubus, 'hope you're wearing mail first :)'

Kaige says, 'not really.'

Kaige giggles.

Gondar says, 'woohoo, kaige is a sword swallower'

Mounty says, 'i found one in a box then sold it for 5k *rofl*'

LadyAce says, 'well, anyway, sometimes stuff is spendy and not at the minimum it could be, and that's intentional -- to get truly the cheapest, tougher mobs and/or quest items tend to be the way to go'

LadyAce says, 'we do that for a reason, of course, to make the risk/work worth it :)'

Gondar nods solemnly.

Mounty looks up into the sky and ponders.

Gondar says, 'thax, you satisfied my curiosity. . . for now. . .'


Imm Applications & Qualities

Incubus says, 'if i weer to become an imm... what qualifications would you look for (i hope spelling isnt one)'

Incubus says, 'other than being level 45 i mean'

LadyAce says, 'well, you hafta pick a department :)'

LadyAce says, 'part of that will depend on where you want to be an imm'

Incubus says, 'right...'

Ea! says to Incubus, 'You clearly haven't talked to Chocorua much, have you?'

LadyAce says, 'PR and building -- creativity a must.'

Kaige chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'admin and coding -- judgement a must.'

Incubus says, 'umm.... ok for now lets say i wanted to be a umm... builder...'

LadyAce says, 'smart, interesting, reasonable folks....'

Kaige says, 'a good spell checker is a definite plus.'

Incubus snaps his fingers. ATTITUDE!

Mounty says, 'okat u got all that but the smart part'

Straussy says, 'and overall sense of the mud and how it flows...'

Incubus says, 'i know how it flows'

Incubus nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

LadyAce says, 'time to work on projects and/or spend online....'

LadyAce says, 'high ethical standards...'

Mounty says to LadyAce, 'does an age count?'

Incubus says, 'ooh... that could be problem'

Incubus says, 'ethics .... i forgot what that means'

Incubus whines.

Ea! says, 'We've immorted people as young as 16, and as old as... er, I dunno.'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'Spencer'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Straussy says, 'Govan immed when she was 16'

Ea! says, 'Age doesn't matter -- maturity matters a lot more than age.'

Mounty nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'there's no technical age limit, but how you act counts a lot more'

Ea! says, 'Plus, she immed into Admin, which is really impressive.'

Mounty says, 'matuirty... well im messed then...'

Kaige says, 'it's true'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Mounty says, 'can i be and imm... the imms court jester'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Mounty rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Straussy says to Mounty, 'can you juggle?'

Incubus says, 'if i become an imm do i get to choose what kind of office i get?'

Mounty chuckles politely.

LadyAce giggles.

Mounty says, 'hes a great FUNNY guy.. but im better'

Mounty struts proudly.

Incubus says, 'can i have an office?'

LadyAce says, 'you get to design your office, sure :) but that's not a good reason to imm :P'

Incubus says, 'but its an office...'

Incubus says, 'i mean... i would imm because of the pplayerbase and all that...'

Mounty says, 'do you get to make a NEW place?'

Straussy beeps Incubus on the nose.

Incubus says, 'what would be qualifications for a pr immm?'

LadyAce says, 'you might want to have a more definite sense of why than that :)'

Straussy says, 'yeah'

LadyAce says, 'I'd say creativity and hard-working'

Kaige says, 'there's a whole set of info up on the webpages command that has all that type of info. of what you need to do when applying to any of the departments'

Incubus says, 'umm... can i be a vengful imm?'

Straussy says, 'it might seen like fun but if you dont have the time to dedicate to your department then you wont have any fun at all'

Ea! says to Incubus, 'Do you know how to code?'

Ea! ducks to the ground.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Tima drinks from a shot of neat whiskey.

Straussy says, 'the more work you put in as an imm the more results you get and thats where the fun comes'

Incubus says, 'with a sword of burning firte and all that...'

Straussy says, 'burning firte?'

LadyAce says to Incubus, 'read up on the web pages, and ask if you have questions after that :)'

Mounty says, 'what type of code is it? is it like vb or html or java?'

Straussy shivers uncomfortably.

Incubus says, 'oh yeah do you need to know anything about code to do this... er... what was it? co-ding?'

LadyAce says to Mounty, 'C. fear us.'

Ea! says to Mounty, 'C.'

Incubus says, 'erm.. fire'

Kaige says, 'ansi c'

Gondar goes EEK! in distress.

Kaige says, 'not even C++'

Mounty says, 'c++?'

Mounty rolls around on the ground with laughter.

LadyAce says, 'we're too good for C++'

Mounty says, 'jsut c'

Mounty says, 'wow thats like wow'

Ea! says, 'There's no "just" about C.'

LadyAce says, 'maybe we can get Snapper to port us to C# >:)'

Mounty says, 'well my shcool cant afford c++'

Mounty looks up into the sky and ponders.

Mounty licks Masha.

Incubus says, 'i is so confussed!'

Straussy says, 'qbasic'

Mounty ducks under LadyAce.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Straussy's head.

Ea! says, 'Most applications that run the Internet are still written in C, and with good reason.'

Mounty says, 'q basic is fro mac isnt it not?'

Incubus says, 'beacuse its complcated and they want a closed market??'

Straussy shrugs helplessly.

Straussy says, 'it's just fun'

Mounty looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige can now compile in C on her mac.

LadyAce says, 'c++ is free. Blame your school if it doesn't know that :P'

Ea! says to Incubus, 'No, they're mostly open source things, like Apache and Bind.'

Kaige hugs OSX

Mounty says, 'what do pr's do?'

Straussy cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Incubus says to Ea!, 'i have no clue what that means'

Mounty says, 'in canada its like 14 bucks :P'

Incubus smiles happily.

Gondar says, 'they fly around in kool airplanes'

Gondar points at LadyAce.

Ea! says, 'Oh, yeah, and the base OS under OS X is C.'

Ea! says, 'I think.'

Incubus says, 'oh canada..... our homeand native land'

Mounty says, 'lol but we need 30+ copy fo serial keys'

Haley says, 'the helpfiles for each department give you a quick overview of what they do as well.'

Mounty cheers wildly!

Straussy nods his agreement with Haley.

Incubus says, 'is there ann imm mafia?'

Mounty chuckles politely at Incubus's feeble witticism.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Straussy's head.

Straussy says, 'maybe'

Incubus gulps nervously.

Mounty says, 'ya they days imm fight back'

Mounty rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kaige says to Mounty, 'not one specific one, no.'

Incubus says, 'shh! they might!!'

Ea! says, 'We're too disorganized to be organized crime.'

Gondar rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Incubus giggles.

LadyAce grumbles.

Incubus goes EEK! at LadyAce in distress - isn't LadyAce an awful person for teasing?

Gondar comforts LadyAce.


Specific Imm for Complaints?

Mounty says, 'is there an imm that just takes complants?'

Mounty says to Kaige, 'well dont you think mayeb there should be a couple imms that take complant soo that the rest can just build or what ever they do'

Haley says to Mounty, 'great in concept but high in burn out'

Mounty nods his agreement with Haley.

LadyAce says to Mounty, 'if I couldn't do anything about the complaints I get, I'd never have any fun.'

Kaige says to Mounty, 'well, with everyone able to do it, people don't have to wait for them to be around, and you know you can approach someone who would be more knowledgeable about your problem'

Mounty nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'and that... being complained at all the time is no fun'

Incubus says, 'one complaint is un-punishable but can a series of complaints be good for a warning? as harrasment?'

Kaige wouldn't subject anyone to torture like that.

LadyAce says, 'the people who get the complaints can be the best people to deal with them, in fact.'


New Areas?

LadyAce says, 'sorry about that, did I miss any hands? Tima was asking about new areas.'

LadyAce says, 'there's an expansion to Paris which is being tested, and many other areas in or approaching testing, but nothing has a firm install date yet.'

Incubus says, 'so tested means innaccessible??'

Tima pouts.

Mounty says, 'is there going to be any new like eq or anything but in any time soon?'

LadyAce says to Mounty, 'maybe with area updates -- you'll have to wait and see.'

Mounty says, 'like a 18 maxdam 100 rent sword *nudge nudge*'

Kaige says, 'there's been some put in all summer.. I'd say you can expect more as we move to Inndustrial next month with the Odyssey still going'

Incubus drools contentedly.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Mounty nods solemnly.


Industrial Era Discussion

Incubus says, 'what do you have in mind to keep the players exploring i tell you insdus is completely empty'

Tima shakes her head in disagreement with Incubus.

Tima says to Incubus, 'is not'

Incubus says to Tima, 'is to!'

LadyAce says, 'that's part of what the odyssey is for'

Mounty says, 'well i well have to agree a little... i think the most exciting thing in industrial is guns and dting'

LadyAce says, 'to update the quieter, less used zones'

Incubus says, 'dt'ing is always fun'

Incubus smiles happily.

Mounty chuckles politely.

Gondar says, 'indus needs a *lot* of updating then...'

Incubus says, 'is there any ideas to build a new hometown in indus?'

Mounty nods his agreement with Gondar.

Kaige says, 'and the more you guys idea in the zones you find boring and dull and empty.. the easier it is for builders to fill it with stuff'

Incubus says to Gondar, 'the room descs in rabat are 1 line long'

Mounty nods solemnly.

Gondar chuckles politely.

Mounty says to Kaige, 'i have an idea.... why dont you make a hometown in like a warzone you when you get bigger you skill in guns/fightingskill/ like army stuff'

Incubus nods his agreement with Mounty.

Mounty says, 'wow that made no sence'

Incubus says, 'the better things are in that area the more traffic it will receive... put a few mazes in and people will end up everywhere!'

Gondar says, 'or make San Fran a hometown again, with gun bonuses'

Mounty says, 'oh and i dont mean to direct that a any sertin imm'

LadyAce says, 'we might eventually put in another hometown in industrial, but there aren't any skills to make a new hometown special, so it doesn't make sense right now'

Mounty nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'otherwise you'd just ask us all the time 'why would anyone be from *blah*, it sucks!''

LadyAce winks suggestively.

Mounty rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Incubus says, 'well... indus india you can have gun skills and at the same time druid skills and spells?'

Mounty says, 'but if you make a war zone hometown and give us a tank and a skill to use it'

Incubus says, 'wouldnt that make sense?'

Mounty drools contentedly.

Gondar says to LadyAce, 'oh, like Lima!'

Gondar ducks to the ground.

Incubus says, 'im from lima'

Incubus scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'I think they'd have to be a little bit different than just the same old stuff mixed up, etc.'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce points at Gondar.

Gondar says, 'this is kinda what we're already talking about'

Incubus giggles at Mounty.

Mounty says, 'ya test and never give vack'

Incubus snickers softly.

Gondar says, 'if indus had a big run area like PD SL AT that might get more people to search around indus'

Gondar shrugs philosophically.

Mounty nods his agreement with Gondar.

Incubus says, 'i was gonna say somethin like that'

Mounty says, 'like you have to fight a WHOLE army of like lvl 40's'

Incubus says, 'SL is a big hit... PD is runnin northsides round the clock.. and i cant even get a hitter to kill the opera conductor'

Gondar says, 'like a run through WWII'

Kaige says, 'The Phantom doesn't count?'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Straussy says, 'I dont think that would help industrial'

Gondar says, 'dodging arty fire, and fighting krauts'

Straussy says, 'PD type areas arent the answer for "boring" areas'

Mounty nods solemnly.

Mounty says, 'well it would get ppl up there'

Kaige says, 'I think a lot of it is the war zones don't feel that dangerous in and of themselves.'

Mounty says, 'but savanna is a nice xp place with a serghy'

LadyAce says, 'a higher risk/reward in the warzones would be nice.'

Straussy says, 'it would centralize one area out of the era make the rest of the era even more boring'

Incubus says, 'well.. if you put a newbie friendly place in indus it owuld be a much better place for hometowns.. heck i couldnt even kill a child in pitts till level 20'

Kaige nods her agreement with Straussy.

Mounty says, 'thats true'

Mounty says, 'i had trouble taking a young lady'

Mounty says, 'you now what the does on teh ego'

Incubus nods his agreement with Mounty.

Mounty pouts.

Incubus giggles.

Incubus says, 'he didnt mean that'

Incubus peers around intently.

Mounty says, 'the spelling is bad enough'

Mounty chuckles politely.

Incubus says, 'all im saying is that theres hardly a reason to travel all theway to indus anymore!'

Mounty stretches, you hear several loud snaps - maybe a massage would help?

Gondar nods his agreement with Incubus.

Mounty says, 'other then guns'

Incubus says, 'i go to every trans point i can in indus (which is like 3) and tehres never a sould there...'

Incubus says, 'other than guns'

Incubus nods his agreement with Mounty.

Mounty says, 'and the carnival'

Incubus says, 'ay but when the carnival moves.. everybody stops going.. the oonly place that i see people in the carnival ever is in london.. even though its easy to find almost everywhere...'

Gondar says, 'as much as people go to indus, it could be taken out and hardly anyone would notice'

Mounty says, 'can i ask an imm to send me a tell when there finished?'

Tima says, 'I would'

Tima says, 'I have to buy gun clips somewhere'

Mounty says, 'well thats the only reason you go there right?'

Incubus says, 'it needs to be expanded... put in more battles like Ipres.... sommes is already there... umm.... versailles... no wait thats the treaty.. umm...'

Incubus says, 'what was the great canadian victory?'

Mounty says, 'they had a victory'

Mounty is completely boggled.

Incubus whaps Mounty across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Incubus says, 'in world war one!'

Mounty says, 'OH OH'

Incubus says, 'umm... started with a v?'

Mounty says, 'i dont know'

Incubus says, 'i hsould know this i just finished studying it...'

Incubus says, 'vimy ridge! that was the canadian one!'


A Strength Spear?

Gondar says, 'is there, or is there planned, a good spear that str types can use?'

Incubus says, 'a str spear'

Incubus cowers in fear!

Gondar says, 'well, help strength mentions spears (I think)'

Incubus says, 'pikes it mentions... but same thing'

Gondar says, 'ok, pikes. . . but same thing basically'

Incubus nods his agreement with Gondar.

Kaige says, 'pikes, swords. no spears... bladed weapons, not peircing ones.'

Kaige says, 'slashing/slicing not piercing/stabbing'

LadyAce says, 'if it's stabbing, it's dex.'


Guns Shooting > 1 Room?

Incubus says, 'there should be a better variety of weapons... like a larger variety of guns.. sniper rifles that can get someone two room away instead of one! (as long as its a straight line) would be kinda cool!'

Incubus says, 'em.. etc etc...'

Kaige says, 'there's a reason guns only shoot one room...'

Incubus says, 'whas the reason?'

Incubus is completely boggled.

LadyAce says, 'that particular thing would take some big code stuff .. we're not opposed to variety, it's just not easy to make that particular kind of variety.'

Incubus says, 'is it about autorush??'

Kaige says, 'rooms don't ahve a size stat... and we've got so many rooms that have such varying sizes, that we decided that one was the fairest and least fiction breaking way to do that.'

Incubus says, 'oh yes... like how the ancient atlantic is like 4 rooms...'

Kaige says, 'exactly'

Ea! says, 'It'd also be pretty tricky to code with the current code, but that's a side issue.'

LadyAce says, 'alternately, we *could* make you walk 50 rooms to cross the atlantic :)'

Kaige snores loudly.

Incubus says, 'couldnt you just say if its a big room something like ' That is too great a distance!;'

Kaige hates describing water rooms as it is.

Gondar says, 'here is some water'

Gondar says, 'here is more water'

Kaige says to Incubus, 'that's going back and telling each of 5000+ rooms how big it is.'

Gondar chuckles politely.

Incubus says, 'o... right...'

Incubus says, 'are there any unbusy imms to do that??'

Gondar says, 'well. . . looks like PD needs help'

Gondar waves happily.

Kaige says, '5325 rooms that are in the game, and many more that aren't yet'

LadyAce says, 'each room would need a length and a width'

Incubus says, 'oh no thats impossible!'

Incubus says, 'it would take years!'

Kaige says, 'and then a height just to make it right... so no.. not really worth it for the benefits it'd gain'

Incubus says, 'height wouldnt matter would it?'

Kaige says, 'it's also one of the reasons mobs don't have sizes and you can't pick up the cute little cuddly kittens'

Methuselah says to Incubus, 'scans the clouds for a weather balloon'

Kaige says, 'we have vertical rooms.. have to know how high you can shoot too'

Methuselah peers at himself myopically.

Incubus says, 'oh like the rooms in sommes in the air! i like those rooms there should be more of those!'

Ea! says, 'Plus, you can fall!'

Incubus says, 'but you can put the kittens wieght so heavy that nobody ca pick it up'

Kaige says, 'they don't have weight, either'

Kaige giggles.

Incubus says, 'or implement a thingy that says 'a cat wriggles and squirms itself free of your grasp''

Kaige says, 'the little critters around sherwood do some stuff like that'

Kaige has created a frog!

Kaige picks up a frog and it quickly wriggles out of her grip and jumps back to the ground.

Incubus says, 'i know imm pets do...'

Incubus says, 'hey cool'

Incubus picks up a frog and it quickly wriggles out of his grip and jumps back to the ground.

Kaige says, 'not an imm pet'

Sandra says, 'is too!'

Incubus says, 'i know but...'

Kaige giggles.

Incubus says, 'can i keep this frog'

Kaige winks suggestively at Sandra.

Incubus picks up a frog and it quickly wriggles out of his grip and jumps back to the ground.

Incubus sniffles quietly.

LadyAce giggles at Incubus.

Incubus says, 'thats just not gonna work'

Kaige picks up a frog and it quickly wriggles out of her grip and jumps back to the ground.

Incubus says, 'thank you'


More Changes for Creates?

Elf-Lord says, 'iw as wondering if you guys or gunna make 3 create worse?'

Ea! says, 'No promises either way...'

Elf-Lord says, 'cuz you gusy made salamders 30-60 hp i think....'

Ea! says, 'Nothing comes to my mind that we have in the plans for 3rd circle create at the moment, other than a bug fix for the homunculi thing.'

LadyAce says, 'we tend to try to keep stuff in balance...so if it seems to be too strong, we'd adjust'

Elf-Lord says, 'and really they dont do anything'

Elf-Lord says, 'ya they dont fight anymore'

Ea! says, 'well, that code *mostly* works.'

Ea! giggles.

Elf-Lord says, 'well when you a lvl 50 with a lvl 25 salamader that has 30 hp... thats kinda blows'

LadyAce says, 'you might find it beneficial to experiment with charmies -- we made them more complex, so they're not all good for the same things at the same times/places.'

Elf-Lord nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'different ones are better at different sorts of things -- other types might have more hp than salamanders.'

Romulus waves hello to the world!

Elf-Lord says, 'i know that demons/archer/titans have different abilitys but there good and same with the eithic archer'

Elf-Lord says, 'but its the salamder gusy that bug me'

LadyAce says, 'experiment around, you might find good uses for them. If not, don't use 'em :)'

Romulus throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Elf-Lord says, 'when i say salamder imean all of them air spirte/golem/the water freaky looking things'

Elf-Lord says, 'well whats there good for holding eq to see thats it'

Ea! says, 'Each elemental type is slightly different. Try playing around with each of them.'

Ea! says, 'the greater ones doubly-so.'

Elf-Lord says, 'i knwo what they do differently but the hp is close to be the same'

Elf-Lord looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, ''sides, I like salamanders -- my weapon summons them!'

Ea! throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Ea! gives a quick polish to Knowledge, wisdom, and magic. It now shines brightly.

Elf-Lord says to Ea!, 'ya well you an imm... give that that wants and ill go nutz'

Elf-Lord chuckles politely.

Elf-Lord says, 'ill pk ppl and summome salamdors and sinc like 50 on him'

LadyAce says, 'if you're not getting the results you want from a spell, it might not be the spell's fault :)'

Elf-Lord drools contentedly.

Elf-Lord says, 'LOL dont blame it on me... lol'

LadyAce says, 'you might well have made some choices about your char that make the spell less effective.'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Methuselah says, 'you know, that's one thing that binds together the entire player base -- it's never our own fault!'

Kaige chuckles politely at Methuselah's feeble witticism.

Elf-Lord says, 'well the imms changed them soo that the hp are smaller cuz 3 c create got WAY to powerful am i correct?'

Elf-Lord says to Methuselah, 'LOL well ummm shhhh have a lollipop'

Ea! says, 'Well, part of it was. Part of it was an attempt to diversify the different types of elementals from each other somewhat.'

Elf-Lord nods his agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says, 'when we give them more strengths and weaknesses, we end up increasing the amount of variation in game play, which tends to make things more fun :)'

Elf-Lord says, 'okay but maybe if they had a sertin hp that the had all the time... but when you level the hp goes up a little bit... till like 100hp or something....'

Elf-Lord nods solemnly.

Methuselah says, 'besides, you just can't top the salamander spokesmodel favored by some of our illustrious mages'

Elf-Lord nods solemnly.


Homunculi Don't Fight?

Elf-Lord says, 'oh oh anohter question how coem homunculus dont fight?'

Ea! says, 'they're porters! they're not made to fight!'

Methuselah says to Elf-Lord, 'religious issues.'

Elf-Lord says, 'porters? smaller simple words pelase'

Elf-Lord chuckles politely.

Ea! says, 'They're designed to carry stuff.'

Kaige says, 'porter: person who ports or carries stuff'

LadyAce says, 'if you take the world portable, it makes more sense. able to be 'ported' about.'

Elf-Lord thanks Kaige heartily.

Elf-Lord says, 'religious?'

Elf-Lord says, 'but weren't they used for fightering B4'

Ea! says, 'Yeah, but that was before they unionized.'

Ea! says, 'Oh, wait, er, yeah...'

Elf-Lord says, 'unionized??? there freaken clay guy you make coem to life LOL they should obey you so when you sie fight him they should LOL'

LadyAce says, 'there was a revolt. we barely survived. we can't even talk about all the details of the contract...but one stipulation is that we can't make them carry stuff any more.'

Methuselah says to Elf-Lord, 'maybe they can be bribed'

Ea! says, 'From an out of character perspective, that change was made to allow create mages to have a cheap solution for carrying stuff. With the value they were in combat, we would have needed to dramatically increase their mana cost.'

Kaige snickers softly.

Elf-Lord says, 'ahh okay so really there just chest with legs?'


Bodily Functions?

Elf-Lord says, 'how coem you make charactors thirsty starveing but not go to the washroom?'

Kaige says, 'too much information?'

Kaige giggles.

LadyAce says, 'we and you have better things to do :P'

Elf-Lord laughs with amusement.

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Elf-Lord says, 'LOL but that would be great LOl you in teh middle of pd and you godda go pee pee'

Methuselah breathes a sigh of relief.

LadyAce says, 'we also don't discuss your breathing, heart rate, or growing beer gut :P'

Kaige says, 'you don't usually have to read about that stuff in novels either'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.


Why is Skyblade Quest So Long?

Tima says, 'Why is the Skyblade quest so long?'

Tima pouts.

Kaige says, 'because Ptah wanted to make an epic quest'

LadyAce says to Tima, 'It's a reproduction of a myth, it's part of the experience :)'

Kaige says, 'and when it was written that was about the shortest way it could be done at the time'

Tima says, 'I know But it takes forever Coulden't you shorten the time to like half a day for repair the sword?'

Kaige says, 'but he's not just repairing it.. he's reforging it.'

Elf-Lord says, 'ya but or forging skill takes 2 seconds... what wrong with him'

Elf-Lord says, 'and he calles himself a blacksmith'

Tima giggles at Elf-Lord.

Elf-Lord chuckles politely at LadyAce's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'your forge makes junk ... what does his make? :)'

Kaige says, 'look at the sword you end up with... definitely well made comparatively speaking.'

Tima says, 'a two handed sword that heals'

Elf-Lord says, 'bigger junk'

LadyAce jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Elf-Lord!

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce says, 'it is ALL ABOUT the bigger junk, dude.'

Lenore snickers softly.

Elf-Lord says, 'I want bigger junk'

Tima says, 'I want big junk'

Elf-Lord pouts.

Methuselah giggles at LadyAce.

Elf-Lord rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Methuselah says, 'I want a small junk, lightweight and swift on the seas'


Hell, Dante, & Larderello

Tima says to LadyAce, 'Was there really once an area called Hell?'

Tima says, 'and if so whyd it go?'

Lenore nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'there was Dante's Inferno, long ago'

Ea! says, 'Well, Hell was loosely based on Dante's Inferno.'

LadyAce says, 'there was a dispute with the person who made it, he didn't want anyone else but him to be able to make any changes, even to fix bugs or problems, even if he wasn't around.'

LadyAce says, 'and he ended up calling lawyers and such. So we pulled it, we didn't want to get sued.'

Tima gasps in astonishment.

Tima says, 'Protective'

Kaige says, 'and everyone else had always assumed that the work they were doing for the mud was FOR the mud so that basically questions of copyright weren't a huge issue and their expectations weren't contrary to that notion either.'

Ea! nods his agreement with Kaige.

Ea! says, 'All the other builders were able to agree upon a standard copyright.'

Tima says, 'was it really that great of a place?'

LadyAce says, 'some people liked it a lot, it won some Expie awards.'

Methuselah says to Tima, 'do you miss it?'

Tima says to Methuselah, 'I never saw it'

LadyAce says, 'it also provided for some great RP -- being a source of evil and all that'

Tima pouts.

Methuselah says, 'was there a guppy in it?'

Tima says, 'Are you thinking of making an area such as that?'

Ea! says, 'It was fun in that it was long -- once you were in there, it took a hile to get out. PD/SL always feel like you could leave quickly if you wanted to...'

Kaige says, 'there's another Dante's Inferno in the works.. Kae's working on it.'

Incubus says, 'what was dantes inferno?'

Tima cheers wildly!

LadyAce says, 'she calls hers Larderello'

Straussy says, 'it sounds neat too'

Kaige says, 'which is the city outside the sulfur springs in Italy where Dante set his mouth to hell'

LadyAce says, 'Dante was a writer who wrote 'The Inferno' as well as several other long epic novel/poems'

Lenore beams delightedly.

LadyAce says, 'in Italy in the 1600s I believe?'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'sounds right'

Tima says, 'and would that be made into a home town'

Straussy says, 'somewhere around there'

Kaige says to Tima, 'lots'

Kaige says, 'medieval'

Straussy says to Tima, 'bring your white shield of holy ;)'

Incubus says, 'another in med??'

Ea! says, 'If you're interested in what it is likely to be like, go buy a copy of it. It's a really good read.'

LadyAce says, 'at any rate, in it he tells a story of hell which mixes together the notions of biblical Hell with contemporary (i.e. late medieval) mythology and culture'

Gone-Fission says to Ea!, 'ewww, i hated that book =P'

Ea! says, 'Purgatorio and Paradiso aren't quite as good, though.'

Methuselah says, 'he was the first widely-read European to write in vernacular in the post-Latin world.'

LadyAce says, 'really it tells you more about his society and what they believed about things than it does about "hell" per se :)'

Methuselah says, 'trivia for you'

Incubus says, 'oh... seeido'

Tima says, 'Well in the new Inferno will it have any chance of becomeing a home town'

LadyAce says, 'I think the new Inferno will be a pretty dangerous place. I'm not sure anyone gets born in that kind of world....'

Tima pouts at LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'it's like, souls suffering...not people hanging out and having kids as much. Except in Dis maybe...'


Hometown Skill Changes?

Gone-Fission says, 'are there going to be any hometown skill changes in the klien update?'

Gone-Fission says, 'and if so, will they be retroactive to already created characters? =P'

LadyAce says to Gone-Fission, 'I don't expect any skill changes, no'

Tima says, 'any new skills being made?'

LadyAce says to Gone-Fission, 'any that we make, we tend to try to do *something* about old chars, that's standard procedure'

Ea! says to Tima, 'Not really.'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Gone-Fission says, 'how come, if ya don't mind me asking...'

Gone-Fission says, 'klien's kinda dead as a hometown as far as skills are concerned'

Gone-Fission flops about helplessly.

Gone-Fission says, '2c words and that's it, no?'

Gone-Fission says, 'oh yeah, and poultice... =P'

Incubus says, 'i think i idead a new skill or command someothing about a spellchecker hting so you can see what spells you can get next depending on the ones you ve and the words you type in'

Incubus says, 'does that have a chance of working?'

Gone-Fission says, 'i'd like to see klien'ers be able to augment =P'

Incubus peers around intently.

Masha looks at Gone-Fission and shudders.

Ea! says to Incubus, 'We're unlikely to do that... we consider it part of the fun of playing a mage.'

Incubus says, 'that would be impossible unbeatable'

Masha says, 'No, only people from Tara can augment'

Gone-Fission says, 'why?'

Incubus says to Ea!, 'but its so hard to figure out what word to get next!'

Gone-Fission says, 'klien's got nothing better than 2c words'

LadyAce says, 'we try to make it so that each hometown has something that they're best at'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Gone-Fission says, 'best i can figure it, you get a lil bash bonus, and thaz it =P'

LadyAce says, 'there's a bonus to some fight skills if you're from Klein, that's the best it has.'

Incubus says, 'which is why there are not many liman peple... its an all around hometown'

Gone-Fission says, 'hmm, that's kinda weak'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Incubus.

Kaige says, 'which is very useful, if you're looking to make an all around type character too'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Incubus sharpens his nails against his shirt in self-congratulations.

Incubus isliman.

Lelldorin says, 'i'll all round! =p'

Incubus says, 'but hardly all around'

Gone-Fission giggles at Lelldorin.

LadyAce says, 'best at being all-around! :)'


Guns & Distance 2

Tima says, 'is there any chance of something more like snipeing I mean one room away isn't that far do you think they might somehow make it to two rooms or more?'

Incubus says, 'i asked that already'

LadyAce says, 'hm, were you here when we talked about this a few min ago?'

Tima says, 'I wasen't here then'

Tima pouts.

LadyAce says, 'essentially we don't have a sense of the size of rooms as far as length and width and height'

Incubus says, 'room sizes vary... the ancient atlantic is about 4 rooms large and iot would take a long time to inpu 5000 romms worth of dimensions'

Tima says, 'sorry'

LadyAce says, 'you cross the atlantic in 4 rooms, but we wouldn't want that kind of unrealistic behavior in a gun'

Kaige says, 'we got that one earlier tonight: short answer is: rooms don't know how big their are, and the effort that it would take to get it known on all three axes isn't worth the benefits'

LadyAce says, 'it'll be in the posting on the web :)'


Bows & "Realism"?

Lelldorin says, 'why were bows changed?'

Gone-Fission says, 'serious'

Gone-Fission says, 'and why do they jam =P'

Gone-Fission ducks to the ground.

Lelldorin says, 'did somebody ask that?'

Incubus says, 'a bow can jam'

Kaige says, 'it takes two hands to operate bows. and they jam because they can/do and if everything was a 100% guaranteed success you'd be bored even more quickly'

Gone-Fission nods solemnly.

Lelldorin says to Kaige, 'then how do we hold a weapon, two held items and a shield?'

Incubus says to Kaige, 'quickdraw'

Lelldorin says, 'and.. only two rings? =b'

Kaige says to Lelldorin, 'I'd like to see no inventory too, how does all that crap float about you all the time?'

Incubus says, 'well...we do hae 10 fingers...'

Gone-Fission chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'if you could have 10 or more, that'd be rather unbalanced.. same with 6 necklaces too'

Incubus says, 'instead of 'you are carrying:' maybe it could say 'In pack"''

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Incubus.

Gone-Fission says, 'good call'

LadyAce says, 'well, what if I don't want to wear a pack? :P'

Methuselah says, 'so imagine that rings only get +1 instead of +5, and that when you wear one, you're really wearing 5.'

Lelldorin says to Kaige, 'yep, my point is if the bows were changed for mud-realism reasons, lots of things need to be changed. is there purely gaming reason why its changed?'

Incubus says, 'what if i dont wanna carry everything around like that!'

Lelldorin says, 'mud to reality, even'

Gone-Fission says to Lelldorin, 'yeah, it's a nother sniper narf =P'

LadyAce says, 'it was changed for realism but it could be done without majorly screwing up balance :P'

Incubus says, 'but then again in pack would negate the effect of dex on the amount of things you can hold'

Kaige says, 'and realism is one of those tricky terms... it doesn't always mean "just like int he real world" when I say it in game terms, I mean it's "consistent with the rest of the mud world/laws of physics/etc"'

Incubus says, 'but as close to real world views as possible'

Kaige says, 'it's presence or lack thereof doesn't make you sit and go.. "hmmm... why is that" and pull you out of character'

Kaige says, 'balance as well as "realism"'

Kaige says, 'then we wouldn't have any spells, would we?'

Kaige says, 'internal consistency is probably the best way to think of it.'


What was with the Snowballs?

Tima says, 'I was just wondering what where the snowballs people got in the mail today (sorry if it was already asked)'

LadyAce says, 'You'll hafta ask Cheyla about that, if you didn't get one. She did the distribution.'

Tima nods solemnly.

Tima waves happily.


PKOK Discussion

Gone-Fission says, 'i think you shouldn't be able to reject someone for 48 rl hours after you fight them, in addition to 50 ticks'

Gone-Fission says, 'it's bs when i kill someone then have to leave'

Gone-Fission says, 'and when i come back, i can't kill them again'

Gone-Fission says, 'or any other circumstance'

LadyAce says, 'well, then we'd lose some of our protections against harassment that we put the system in for in the first place'

LadyAce says, 'we can't really code around your RL....'

Incubus says, 'i htink rejection should not be an option'

Gone-Fission says, 'well, then they ought not mud for 24-48 rl hours after they punk off the person'

LadyAce says, 'some jerk should not be able to keep me out of the game for two solid days...'

Incubus says, 'maybe an imm should host an AA non reject pk tournament..'

Gone-Fission says, 'if you punked off that jerk, then you ought to avoid them for a day or two'

Decoy laughs with amusement.

Methuselah says to Gone-Fission, 'but then you'll get people who reject you up front because they can't spare 2 RL days to get around the reject lag.'

LadyAce says, 'you hafta look at it from both sides, where either one might be the bad guy'

Gone-Fission says to Methuselah, 'then don't have them fight'

Methuselah says to Gone-Fission, 'and that's less conducive to pk'

Gone-Fission shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'ya know.. AA was never meant as a subsistute for Old-style... it was merely another option available to players to use as they wanted.'

Methuselah says to Gone-Fission, 'I mean it's an issue for any pkiller who wants opponents'

Incubus says, 'i dont know anything about old style pkill'

Incubus shrugs helplessly.

Gone-Fission says, 'well, it's as close as you can get to a playerkilling environment'

Kaige says, 'no it's not... the closest you can get to oldstyle under pkok is having 2 or more pk clans that accept each other.'

Gone-Fission says, 'me neither, i wasn't here for old pk, i only know problems in pkok from my own experience'

Gone-Fission says, 'and that's been a problem'

Adamar says, 'old pkill isn't that great'

Incubus says, 'i dont see any problems with pk-ok darnit!!'

Decoy says, 'i kill you! steal something! then reject you!'

Decoy taunts Incubus mercilessly.

Decoy shrugs helplessly.

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Decoy.

Incubus says, 'oh i see... thats a problem'

LadyAce says, 'if you have stolen goods, you can't reject the person.'

Gone-Fission says, 'in the 50 ticks where you can't be on =P'

Incubus nods solemnly.

Adamar says, 'main difference is that people take pk more seriously because of consequence of getting hit back is greater'

Decoy nods his agreement with Gone-Fission.

Gone-Fission says, 'that's only like an hour'

Kaige says, 'the problem is, you have to probably work a bit harder to organize those clans and keep them full of active players who want to play that way.'

Incubus says, 'what about loooted goods'

Gone-Fission says to Incubus, 'that's stolen =P'

LadyAce says, 'same thing'

Methuselah says to Decoy, 'I kill you. I kill you. I kill you. I kill you. I kill you.'

Incubus says, 'oh'

Decoy nods his agreement with Methuselah.

Decoy shrugs helplessly.

Decoy says, 'that's why i don't pk :P'

Gone-Fission says, 'i'd like to see an immort who is representative of the PK community'

LadyAce says, 'Huginn and Sandra are about the best you can get there, I'd say.'

Gone-Fission says, 'so we can have our opinions voiced at whatever meetings and shiz yall have'

Gone-Fission shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'You've heard Huginn and Sandra's views on it.'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.


Controlling the Weather?

Adamar says, 'more question on control weather, does the length of the spell depend on cast level or mind'

Adamar says, 'i tried both ways and don't seem to make much difference'

Kaige says to Adamar, 'no, it's based on the area you're in and how the weather there tends to be naturally'

Adamar says, 'so if it is a stormy area , my sunny spell won't last as long'

Adamar says, 'as in say a desert'

Kaige nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'right, cuz you're fighting stronger natural forces'

Adamar frowns.

LadyAce says, 'same with sunny in a cold season'

Herbert says, 'seems like you're better just using elementals based off the area to begin with and not bothering changing weather patterns'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Decoy says, 'how can ya tell? i mean, desert is sunny, ocean can be stormy, but what about sherwood or romania or london?'

Adamar says, 'ok, i found the best generic condition for charmies'

Herbert says, 'mana cost of a control weather vs making a new charmie..'

Kaige says, 'spend some time there, learn the area?'

Decoy nods his agreement with Kaige.

Adamar says, 'actually worth changing the weather'

Decoy says, 'okies :)'

LadyAce says, 'there's s a weather command too'

Adamar shrugs helplessly.

Decoy nods his agreement with LadyAce.


Homunculi: Take 2

Decoy says, 'homunculi!!!'

Decoy bursts into tears.

Decoy says, 'what the heck is up w/ them?'

LadyAce says, 'hey, didn't we already talk about this tonight? :)'

Decoy says, 'oh'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Decoy says, 'i wasn't here...'

Decoy scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'they're just for carrying stuff, that's intentional, is the upshot'

Decoy says, 'okies, i'll just read about it later then :)'


Kaige says, 'they were made to act as they were intended for their mana cost'

Decoy says, 'really?'

LadyAce says, 'you hafta use different charmies for different things.'

Decoy says, 'so no more homie armies?'

Adamar says to Decoy, 'the invincible homu have other uses now too'

Decoy sighs loudly.

Methuselah says to Decoy, 'try to empathize.... I mean, on his home plane... and now....'

Adamar grins evilly.

Incubus says, 'but if someone can only cast homonculi and are weak then what are they to do!!'

Decoy blinks at Adamar.

LadyAce says, 'get rougher and tougher, or die in the process?'

Herbert nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'money run by scavenging?'

Herbert grins evilly.

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Decoy says, 'i always used em as cheap mob movers'

Decoy throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Incubus says, 'right... die then'


Character Type Diversity

Gone-Fission says, 'in the interests of game balance why do 2c creates have balm and 2c causes have crappy cure light?'

Incubus says, 'what about cure crit?'

Adamar says, '3c'

LadyAce says, 'they're not supposed to be identical'

Gone-Fission says, 'wellllllll'

Ea! says, 'Game balance isn't so simple: they had other advantages and disadvantages that balance things out.'

LadyAce says, 'they're supposed to have different advantages'

Incubus says, 'oh 3c... oops...'

Kaige says, 'you want Taran characters to completely rock over everyone again?'

Herbert says, 'i reckon we should have balm as 2c for both and cur ecrit fer 3c for both'

Herbert says, 'thatd rule'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Gone-Fission says, 'serious, or at least something better than cure light'

Incubus says, 'what happened to roots :('

Kaige says, 'and then healers are left high and dry and unwanted and unloved.'

Incubus sniffles quietly.

Kaige says, 'healers should be the primary healers, not mages.'

Gone-Fission says to Incubus, 'it went the way of one handed bows'

Incubus bursts into tears at the sight of a shiny scalpel.

LadyAce says, 'what it gives us is 2c cause is more 'offensive' in nature, and 2c create is more 'helpful sweet and kind' in nature'

Herbert says, 'hehehehehe almost a year later and we're still hearin what happened to roots?'

Ea! says, 'the game would be boring if both types of mages had identical spells with different names...'

Herbert throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Adamar says, 'balm replace root, 2c cause druid is popular'

Herbert says, 'i was helpful sweet and kind when i was just a little 2c!'

Herbert pouts.

Gone-Fission says, 'i can see what you're saying, but having just curelight sucks...'

Adamar says to Herbert, 'you were sweet and kind?'

Incubus says, 'wel. your still er... help...ful'

Herbert nods his agreement with Adamar.

Gone-Fission says, 'kinda limits what klieners can do'

Adamar is completely boggled.

Incubus says, 'cureanything is better then curenone'

Sandra says, 'hey, it used to be that 3c cause only had cure light. And we did fine with it =P'

Gone-Fission says, 'ugh'

Adamar says, 'klein sucks,'

Methuselah peers around intently.

Ea! says to Gone-Fission, 'Augment the cure light by ODing on drugs?'

Gone-Fission says to Ea!, 'tried it, got the stomach pump'

Herbert says, 'ive been here done this, a LOT of times, except the topic was pure surgeons and their suckitude'

Incubus goes EEK! at Herbert in distress - isn't Herbert an awful person for teasing?

Incubus sniffles quietly.

Incubus says, 'what ever happened to bards?'

Adamar says, 'the clan?'

Adamar points proudly at himself.

Incubus says, 'no... bards in general'

Adamar says, 'bard skills are great'

Incubus says, 'but why have people lost interest in the proffesion of a bard?!?'

Herbert says to Incubus, 'i made a pure bard.. it was...interesting'

Ea! says, 'surgeons *might* get some new skills pre-trees when I finish with the poisons stuff, but that's still a long way off.'

Herbert nods his agreement with Ea!.


Pistol Whip?

Gone-Fission says, 'i think we need a new sniper only skill, pistolwhip!'

Gone-Fission says, 'fighting, or attempting to fight giant charmie armies is ridiculous with a sniper'

Gone-Fission says, 'the create mages dominate the hell out of the sniper class'

Herbert says, 'create mages do?'

Herbert coughs loudly.

Herbert points proudly at himself.

Herbert slays Goin.

Herbert says, 'anyone with spells, incite and hps.. basically'

Gone-Fission says, 'ok ok, but a create killing you is much more frustrating than fighting a herbert =P'

Gone-Fission says, 'yeah, but this way, someone who hits like crap and has 3 charmies just dominates ridiculously'

Methuselah snaps his fingers. ATTITUDE!

Gone-Fission says, 'it's disgusting'

Gone-Fission says, 'it's almost like 20 rounds of watching yourself die'

Herbert says, 'pistol whip in theory as far as me and my comrade Gone have discussed it would be like a headbutt using your weapon as the stun tool..'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says, 'to break incite with hopefully..'

Gone-Fission says, 'yah...'

Gone-Fission shrugs helplessly.

Incubus says, 'actually pistolwhip wwould be good i have an alt that can only shoot and nothing else so a pistolwhip would be helpful...'


Positions & Aim & Bugs

Herbert says, 'ok mine is just about position code.. since the position code change which me and a few people tested last year? or the year before it seems like theres a LOT of things which havent been corrected'

Herbert says, 'is it still getting tidied?'

Herbert says, 'like kneeling before the throne in Mycenae doesnt seem to work the same and lying giving odd messages on aiming and stuff like that..'

Ea! says to Herbert, 'Er, have you reported them with bug? I can't think of anything that I know of off the top of my head...'

Kaige says, 'that's what I was gonna say...'

Herbert says, 'if anything I would have thought lying would give you a BETTER aim with a gun hehe'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says to Ea!, 'yeah i reported the lying one..'

Ea! says, 'Oh, you're talking about the recent position change -- adding kneel/lay...'

Ea! giggles.

Herbert says to Ea!, 'it says you cannot aim a weapon of that type while standing..'

Gone-Fission says, 'i also think it's ridiculous that you have to sit to aim with a pistol... pistols are made to be aiming while standing...'

Herbert says to Gone-Fission, 'no thats just for accurate aim'

Ea! says, 'There's a couple of bugs on the coder list about the kneel/lay stuff, we just haven't had the time to look at them.'

Incubus says, 'i think an element of realism should be added for guns'

Herbert says to Gone-Fission, 'you aim along the top level of the barrel to aim a pistol so kneeling helps'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Gone-Fission says, 'thaz true'

Incubus says, 'and i would like to see some powerful military issue type guns as well'

Herbert says to Gone-Fission, 'you can still fire it with stand just not aim for an accurate shot..'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says to Gone-Fission, 'your arm would be too twitchy without a knee to rest on'

Herbert doesnt know how he knows all that.

Incubus says, 'there are stands for that kind of thing'

Gone-Fission giggles.

Herbert says, 'but yeah Lying should damn near give you a better aim percentage I would have thought..'

Ea! says to Incubus, 'Remember, we don't have areas newer than the 50s, so don't expect anything more modern than that.'

Incubus nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says, 'just thought I should mention all that here so ya know people notice hehe'

Gone-Fission says, 'i'd also like to see a way of effectively using a semi-automatic pistol.... i.e. it shouldn't have skill lag, or you should be able to burst-fire 3 rounds'

Incubus says, 'oh... but like... they had rocket launcher's in the 50's... heck the had nukes in the 50's'

Adamar says to Ea!, 'maybe add in some 1 shot bazooka in ww2 area'

Herbert says, 'lord knows ive OD'd on bug/typo/idea lately though'

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Incubus.

Gone-Fission says, 'or hand grenades actually working! i.e. pull pin, throw grenade target...'

Ea! says, 'I think that the laying down that we have is intended to be laying down on your back in a relaxing way, not laying on your stomach to shoot.'

Incubus says, 'having uzi skill lag just isnt right'

Incubus says, 'oh...'

Kaige says, 'or on your side or something'

Herbert says to Ea!, 'oh... i always just considered it prone hehe'

Incubus says, 'howbout aimlay'

Sandra nods her agreement with Ea!.

Gone-Fission nods his agreement with Herbert.

Gone-Fission flops about helplessly.

Herbert says, 'ok that explains that then but the message still needs updated for the shooting thing'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'We'll see about clarifying the message on that one.'

Incubus says, 'well.. no because lay is lay and rest is rest you can rest while laying...'

Kaige says, 'hence the confusion with the "relax" in the message before too'

Herbert nods his agreement with Kaige.

Incubus says, 'so therefore lay is not a relaxx...'

Herbert says to Kaige, 'yeah i noticed that too..'

Incubus lays down on the ground.

Incubus says, 'see.. lay down on the grown'

Incubus gets up on one knee.

Incubus says, 'thats odd'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Incubus lays down on the ground.

Herbert says, 'ok guys just bringing up the usual reminding you all I still care and still love what you do'

Herbert gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

LadyAce hugs Herbert.

Herbert says, 'thanks for being a good crew'

Ea! thanks Herbert heartily.

Adamar nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says, 'see you all around'

Herbert waves happily.

Incubus says, 'thanks for the god answers'

Incubus gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige says, 'no problem'

Straussy smiles happily.


What affects Movement?

says, 'in the meantime what affects the consumption of mv points (other than flying i mean)'

Kaige says, 'some skills use them up'

Incubus says, 'does anything depend on terrain type??'

Kaige says, 'rougher terrain will cost more than indoor palace hallways'

Incubus says, 'right.. makes sensimific...'

Kaige says, 'so expect there to be variation between different terrain types, yes'

Incubus says, 'do any erm.... what are those called... thigs your affected b like poison urn etc leave you taking up more mfv per mv i guess...'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, 'a lot more things affect your move regen than affect the move that moving costs you.'

Incubus says, 'like hunger etc'

Incubus says, 'right'

Incubus says, 'thanks'

Incubus gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige says, 'anyway... looks like we're done here?'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'yup, looks like it.'

LadyAce thanks Methuselah heartily.

LadyAce waves happily.

Kaige waves happily.


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