Lecture Series Index

January 29th, 2004

Q & A Index

Topics Covered

Dam Type for Shooting?
PK Code Changes Planned?
Removing a Limit?
Stock Market Game
Explore vs. In-Game Info
Project for PR App?
PK Bugs?
Slot String Question

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Dam Type for Shooting?

CZARS says, 'does shooting have a tangible damage type? is the damage type different for bows and guns?'

LadyAce says, 'it's pure dice, if that makes sense'

CZARS nods his agreement with LadyAce.

CZARS says, 'just checking, wanted to make sure it wasnt blast'

Cheyla says, 'there's no difference between pierce and bludgeon like weapons have'

CZARS says, 'which would, btw, add a nice irony to stone-skinning snipers'

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce says, 'if we had a social for casting horns over someone's head...I'd do it to you :P'

CZARS shrugs helplessly.


PK Code Changes Planned?

CZARS says, 'nice PK free for all this afternoon, can I add an angle to it?'

CZARS says, 'I woulda loved to join in, but as you know, there were 4 grendels and and....ahem'

CZARS says, 'I was wondering if there were ANY hard code pk changes planned?'

Kaige says, 'nope'

Kaige says, 'other than a couple outstanding bug fixes...'

CZARS says, 'not even, like, a multying xp loss delimitation?'

An aura of heavenly light appears above CZARS's head.

Kaige says, 'nope'

CZARS pouts at Kaige.

Kaige says, 'we said when it went back in.. as is, except for bug fixes that arose from never having run the two together before'

CZARS says, 'changes this week?'

CZARS says, 'or nothing comment worthy?'

Kaige says, 'I guess Huginn hasn't compiled and posted them yet'

Suileach bows deeply.

Kaine says, 'It's a bit scary seeing so many imms on at once, I think this is the most Ive seen.'

CZARS doesnt want to have a fierce debate over various bugs and typos in alaska

CZARS says, 'nobody else has questions? I can abuse the imms?'

CZARS peers around intently.

LadyAce says, 'today isn't a good day for that, no'

LadyAce points at CZARS.

Kaine chuckles politely.

CZARS says, 'abuse as in pepper with questions :P'

Cheyla says, 'still mightn't be a good day for that... depending on the questions'


Removing a Limit?

CZARS says, 'ok, assume we get a warning, and our channels are removed--and the warning goes--when do we get our channels back?'

Cheyla says, 'when you ask provided it's after the timeframe the punishment was to last for'

LadyAce says, 'there's usually a timeframe specified at the time of the warning, or shortly after'

CZARS says, 'and if no such timeframe were specified?'

Cheyla says, 'ask and hope? :)'

CZARS says, 'is it just like sandra's "there was no talk of unglue" analogy?'



CZARS says, 'when prestige was eliminated from rent calculations--why was it kept on some skills?'

Kae says, 'it'd be pretty useless otherwise?'

Chocorua says, 'prestige wasn't eliminated from the entire game'

Kaige says, 'because we only eliminated the cost for having it on an item, not the stat itself?'

CZARS says, 'in that case, subquestion, will surgery overhaul look at overhaul of prestige for bards?'

Kae says, 'if you ask me prestige doesn't mean nearly enough'

Kaige says, 'bards? sorry.. not sure I follow that logic.'

Kaige says, 'is that like the snipers=backstab thing?'

Kaige is completely boggled.

CZARS says, 'if you ask me, prestige doesnt mean enough, but I find losing it is like 50,000 times easier than gaining it'

Kaige nods solemnly.

CZARS says, 'I've sat at like 0 prestige for a good 2 months now'

Kaige says, 'It was always meant to be harder to get than to lose'

Suileach says, 'kinda like life, huh?'

Kaige says, 'which is kind of weird.. cause I never feel like my chars lose it.'

Kaine nods solemnly.

Chocorua says, 'it's easy to get at low levels oddly'

CZARS says, '3 of my 4 chars sit at under 50 prestige for most of their time online'

LadyAce says, 'lot of fleeing maybe?'

CZARS says, 'lot of PKing in some cases'

CZARS says, 'dying in others'

CZARS says, 'lack of mobkill ability'

CZARS coughs loudly.

Chocorua says, 'you tend to fight bigger stuff at lower levels compared to you'

CZARS nods his agreement with Chocorua.

CZARS says, 'PK's by far the worst prestige loser'

CZARS says, 'unless you're playing a 50/50 hitter, fleeing is an integral part and it costs, big time'

CZARS says, 'dont get me wrong, I can learn to live with the xp drain, I just find it stupid I lose 10 damage on a warcry over the coruse of a PK fight because I need to flee'

CZARS points at Herbert.

CZARS says, ''


Stock Market Game

Herbert says, 'ok so i had this idea for a stock market game a little while ago, i told someone to write it down and idea it but i dont think it ever happened so im just going on the record with what i have'

Herbert says, 'basically you have a stock ticker in OOC somewhere, it has various stock types, which change every once in awhile with a cute announce about WHY they changed'

Chocorua says, 'not sure how a stock market type game would fit into our world'

Herbert says, 'so you go to the machine, do BUY MUTTON for example, the machine gives you a stock certificate for mutton'

Kae says, 'well, it'd work in an area from around 1910 and up...'

Herbert says, 'then when mutton prices are good you go back and sell the stocks'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'i think it's come up before'

Herbert says, 'i dont know whether it would suit being a PR game or an ingame item'

Rusalka says, 'could make a nice ind quest'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Rusalka.

LadyAce says, 'reminds me a little of mediterranean trade area'

Chocorua could invest in coffins and umm bandages

LadyAce says, 'but I can see it as a fun element of an industrial era yea'

Herbert says, 'i think a game would be better and have it track the results and award the best daytrader a prize at the end of each financial year'

Herbert says, 'but either way'

Herbert says, 'just a simple time waster mostly but for us bored old geezers it would give us something extra to do while we rot in the inns'

Herbert says, 'oh and also take player submissions for stock types and events to change them'

CZARS says to Chocorua, 'do the coffins and truthify all that stuff about imm power abuse--you get it anyway, why not make some cash off of it :P.'

Kaine says, 'what would influence the price of stock?'

Herbert says, 'like a grain blight affects bread prices, disease ruins mutton stocks, things like that'

LadyAce says, 'It could be an interesting way to tweak the economy'

Kaine says, 'Only random events then?'

Herbert says, 'well yeah essentially you're banking or gambling depending on your style, day trader, or futures'

CZARS says, 'why not just make a PK stock market'

LadyAce says, 'but it sounds pretty complex, too'

Herbert says, 'i think events would be easiest because linking it to the actual ingame stores would be a LOT more work'

Kaine nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'maybe that would be a fun thing to try add a lot later on'

Chocorua says, 'i think it sounds outof place in our world'

Herbert says, 'i dont know its just another random idea i had and wanted on the record'

CZARS says, 'kaige can put it in with 1950's Americana in a few years :P'

Kae says, 'I think it sounds like 1920s New York but I ain't volunteering to build it'

LadyAce says, 'the difference is that something in the code, you'd have the power of C ... with a game, you have builder language -- easier but not as flexible'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Kaine says, 'Didnt there use to be a stock ticket thing in Industrial London?'

LadyAce says, 'yea, watch the players create a depression :)'

Kaige says, 'definitely not the way 1950s is set up'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Herbert nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'there's already a 1930's america. Though, it's sorta depression era'

LadyAce says, 'the london thingy was a game that Dominic was running'

Kaine nods solemnly.

Kaige says to Kaine, 'Nope. I think Dominic ran a game that was stock marketish at one point tho.'

Kae says, 'well, could certainly base an indus area on the stock market'

Kae says, 'just don't look at me for it to happen ;)'

LadyAce says, 'yea it was picking RL stocks I think, he just had the board for it in there'

Kaine says to Kaige, 'Ahh, always wondered what it was for.'

Herbert says, 'the games fun for everyone though because even those not willing to play the odds can suggest fun events, and interesting stocks'

Herbert says, 'ANYHOO, its all in a Q&A log now, so its all good'

LadyAce smiles at Herbert.

Herbert kicks back and puts his feet up.


Explore vs. In-Game Info

CZARS says, 'oh I checked'

CZARS whaps Sandra across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

CZARS says, 'no resist crush item currently'

CZARS says, 'just thought I'd bring that up :P'

CZARS glares icily at Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'gig cz'

Sandra says, 'um, I wasn't the one that said there was'

LadyAce says, 'whoops'

Sandra slays CZARS in cold blood!

You hear CZARS's death cry.

CZARS says, 'oops'

CZARS says, 'yes, but do I need a reason to hit you?'

Sandra nods her agreement with CZARS.

Sandra says, 'you do'

LadyAce says, 'Sandra must've bumped the slay lever when she was laughing :)'

CZARS mutters under his breath.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka chuckles politely.

CZARS says, 'sandra did something to me that I didnt like last week in thar arguement'

CZARS says, 'oh right! she told me to explore!'

CZARS growls.

LadyAce giggles.

Kaige says, 'oh well.'

Kaige says, 'and you did.. and you learned something.'

Kaige smiles at CZARS.

Sandra says, 'i'll probably tell that to you again later too'

CZARS says, 'yes, that 'explore' in immspeak means 'we dont know the answer' or 'no''

CZARS says, 'I'm tending towards no'

Kae says, 'no, it means go out there and look for yourself'

Kaige says, 'no.. as you've repeatedly been told.. it's "we're not GOING to tell you"'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

CZARS says, ''No, ...,' Kae says. (slightly abbreviated)'

LadyAce says, 'we're not allowed to give you all the info about the game'

LadyAce says, 'it's against the rules'

CZARS says, 'the rules that who could theoretically change?'

Kaige says, 'but not even remotely thinking about it.'

Kae says to CZARS, 'Don't put words in my mouth. If I tell you to explore it means just that. If I say I don't know or just no, it means just that.'

CZARS says, 'aww come on, you could at least put a 'free to slay spite/czars/craven' clause in'

Kaige says, 'so when we say explore, test it out.. whatever... we mean just that... you'll get better information by doing it yourself anyway'

CZARS says, 'to staunch a circular arguement, I agree'

Sandra says, 'sometimes I just say 'I'm not telling you squat. go away''

CZARS puts a cyber concession on his arguement. It is staunched

Kaige says, 'cause even if I go to read the code to find the answer, I could read it wrong, and believe it does one thing, but in practice, there's a bug and it's doing something completely wrong.'

Sandra says, 'but 'explore' is shorter'

LadyAce giggles at CZARS.

Kaine winces.

Kaige says, 'so by going to try things yourself, you can tell how it's working for YOU'

CZARS says, 'I give up already, please, if you're curious as to my side ask me later'

CZARS says, 'I dont wanna waste 2000 lines of log going 'I'm right and youre wrong, no YOU'RE wrong and I'm right...''

LadyAce says, 'I don't think it's really a matter of right and wrong, it's just us following the rules we have for ourselves'

LadyAce says, 'I'm not trying to belabor it either -- just saying that we can't tell you everything'



CZARS says, 'how are the expies coming?'

CZARS points at Eresse.

LadyAce says, 'coming alright, but we need more nomination ballots!'

CZARS says, 'quality, or spam?'

LadyAce says, 'we're on pace with last year, but I'd like to see more ballots'

Eresse says, 'to stay on that subject when are they due again?'

Cheyla has one, is just finishing it up. Will get it in before deadline.

LadyAce says, 'no spam, but it takes a goodly number for the nominations to start converging'

Kaige says, 'yeah., me too'

Cheyla says, 'the 2nd'

LadyAce says, 'hooray!'

Kaine says, 'There are just so many spots to fill out - its pretty hard going...'

Eresse says, 'ill do mine tonight'

Eresse says, 'do you get to do a ballot for every alt?'

Eresse snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'there's definitely a lot to it, but if you really can't do the whole thing you can always send it in partly done'

Cheyla says, 'you don't have to fill every space...'

LadyAce says, 'nah, just one per alt'

LadyAce says, 'er one per char'

Sandra says, 'per person'

LadyAce says, 'per person, what am i sayin?'

Kaige says, 'and remember hit reply or forward... don't sent .doc files'

Sandra giggles at LadyAce.

Eresse says, 'player?'

LadyAce shakes her head.

Kaine chuckles politely.

Kaige nods her agreement with Eresse.

Eresse says, 'can i get the site please? or isnt there a direct link?'

LadyAce says, ''websites''

Cheyla says, 'http://www.legendmud.org/Community/expie.php'

LadyAce says, 'you can see the list of quicklinks to various mud links via that command, expies is one of 'em'

LadyAce thanks Eresse heartily.

Eresse says, 'knew the link just wondered if you could fill it out via net without all the sending'

LadyAce says, 'still takes an e-mail'

Kae says to Eresse, 'Chocorua is working on that.'

Eresse says, 'bummer'

Eresse says, 'good for choc'

LadyAce says, 'maybe someday it'll be webby, but that's a lotta work'

Eresse says, 'hmm not to bad really'

Kae says to Eresse, 'But it's not likely to work this year and definitely won't be with ballots.'

CZARS says, 'sure would be'

Eresse had to make a submit page in webpage basics.

CZARS waves bye bye to fair nominations

LadyAce says, 'we'd have to tie it to char passwords'

CZARS nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Eresse says, 'anyway firstly i just wanted to say LadyAce RAWKS!'

LadyAce says, 'same as we tie it to char names via e-mail now'

CZARS says, 'and then compile an alts list'

CZARS says, 'which brings up choc's old account manager point'

LadyAce says, 'we do that anyway for the expies'

Kae says to CZARS, 'People who try to cheat usually just get themselves shut out of the competition, little point to try.'

CZARS says, 'I'm just saying, jeez I dont even susbcribe or vote :P'

Eresse says, 'yes but you still rock, anyway do you have to be a specific lvl to be nominated *pardon the spelling *giggles** and can you nominate yourself?'

Herbert tips his hat gallantly.

Kae says to Eresse, 'Anyone can be nominated and you can nomiate yourself.'

LadyAce says, 'you can be any level, and yes you can nominate yourself'

Eresse nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'only no-no is advertising yourself :)'

LadyAce says, 'but I hope that folks will take a good hard look at the other people around them and try to make a lot of good nominations'

Cheyla says, 'or someone else'

Kaige says, 'or campaigning for someone else'

Kaige nods solemnly.


Project for PR App?

Eresse says, 'when applying for a PR imm position, does the game absolutly have to have interplayer actions?'

Kae raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

LadyAce says, 'can you be more specific?'

CZARS blinks.

CZARS says, 'you mean on the PR app form?'

CZARS says, 'I assume thats it'

Eresse says, 'ummm ya know how ya have to think of a game?'

CZARS says, 'like dont you need a little schpiel to apply for a department?'

Kaige says, 'yeah, she means does her game idea have to have players interacting with each toher.'

Kae says to Eresse, 'What do you mean exactly, interplayer?'

Kae says, 'ah'

Eresse nods solemnly.

Eresse says, 'interactions'

Eresse giggles.

Eresse says, 'other ways to put it'

Kae says, 'well, there are games that don't'

Cheyla says, 'it's a bonus if they do'

LadyAce says, 'it takes a project of some kind... could be a game or a different kind of event, or something else that would improve the atmosphere and community and so forth'

CZARS says, 'that cool hunt game that imms play with no real player interaction'

CZARS says, 'you get clues and such'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Eresse says, 'i could modify mine but it would take time and i dont think i'd make it in time for the next apps'

Kaine says to Eresse, 'What's the game?'

LadyAce says, 'if it doesn't serve very much in the way of ingame or community purpose, we'd want to know more about what you'd do to enhance the mud'

Kaine smiles at Eresse.

Kae says to Eresse, 'Your project dosn't have to be a _game_ either.'

Kaine nudges Eresse.

Eresse says, 'shhhh its a secret'

Kaine mopes around, depressed.

LadyAce says, 'and you hafta talk to a head of PR about it before applying with it anyway'

LadyAce says, 'get their approval and so forth'

Eresse says, 'i talked to you earlier'

CZARS says, 'which head of pr?'

CZARS peers at LadyAce, looking her up and down.

CZARS peers at Sandra, looking her up and down.

LadyAce says, 'oh, ok. I remember talking now, different alt perhaps.'

Eresse nods solemnly.

Eresse says, 'really tuff game, involves alot of work from me but i think i'd be fun'

Eresse says, 'long game'

You do a slow fade as Kaine whines at Eresse, hoping he won't get to you too.

LadyAce says, 'encouraging RP, interaction, exploring, and so forth are usually the "behind the scenes" purpose of having the game in the first place'

Kaine says, 'darn secrets'

Eresse giggles.

LadyAce says, 'what we're really doing under the covers is encouraging people to do the sorts of things we think are good for the mud'

LadyAce says, 'whether it's taking a break from the everyday and making new friends, exploring, talking to people they wouldn't usually talk to, roleplaying, and so forth....'

LadyAce says, 'it doesn't 100% require interaction but it may not be as valuable to the mud without it'

LadyAce says, 'does that make sense? It's a philosophical thing, not a hoop to leap through'

Eresse nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'fun is always good, but fun with a purpose...well, that's more worth time spent'

Kaine would like to see more games, any games...

Kaine chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'did you see all the stuff we have planned for birthday week?'

LadyAce says, 'that's a lotta stuff :)'

Kaine smiles happily.

Eresse says, 'some'

LadyAce says, 'we're saving our energy for the blowout'

CZARS says, 'no? when's the birthday?'

CZARS says, 'elf hunt!'

Kaine says, 'will you spread it around the day some?'

LadyAce says, 'welcome board'

CZARS says, 'no..wait....dhole hunt!'

Kaine really should be working now.

LadyAce says, 'times and dates are all right there'

Eresse says, 'i cant wait till the whole day elf hunt'

CZARS says, 'dhole hunt!'

CZARS says, 'damn it's all during when I have work'

CZARS bursts into tears.

LadyAce says, 'even the weekends?'

CZARS says, 'I'm a student, I gotta make beer money somehow'

Kaine cowers from his partner's wrath!

LadyAce says, 'anyway, yea, the birthday week should be a good time. hold tight 'til then, fill out your expie noms, and be nice to each other :)'

Eresse giggles.

LadyAce says, 'that way we can focus on the preps'


PK Bugs?

CZARS says, 'question for huggin, what are the PK bugs that are gonna be fixed specifically'

Huginn says, 'which ones?'

CZARS says, 'steal'

CZARS says, 'looting when PKE and not accepting'

Huginn says, 'no idea on steal'

CZARS says, 'PK healing, specifically, PKE/AA people being able to drop auggies and balm and such'

Huginn says, 'no plans for that'

CZARS says, 'I just dont see it as being abused any more than it currently is'

Lana shakes her head.

Lana giggles.

CZARS goes EEK! in distress.

CZARS hangs his head.

LadyAce blinks.

Sandra says, 'the augment/balm being nogive was a condition of getting pke back in'

Sandra says, 'so that stays as it is'

CZARS says, 'well its been over 6 months, isnt it past being an experiment now?'

Sandra nods her agreement with CZARS.

LadyAce says, 'it was a condition of the system'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'not a temp measure, a part of the agreement to have it in at all'

LadyAce says, 'if that makes sense'

CZARS bursts into tears.


Slot String Question

Bind says, 'on my muscles string why can i not get sheaning with sweat or just sheaning'

CZARS runs to dictionary

Kaige says, 'wouldn't it be with two ee's anyway?'

CZARS says, 'not a word'

Bind glares icily at CZARS.

Bind says, 'however its spelled'

LadyAce says, 'shining with sweat isn't a place a thing is worn or located?'

Cheyla says, 'too long for starters on the first, and the second doesn't make much sense'

Cheyla says, 'and third, what LA said'

Bind shrugs helplessly.

Bind says, 'flexing is so damned stupid and over used'

CZARS flexes his bulging, impressive muscles.

LadyAce says, 'if it was something like beads of sweat -- that's something else'

LadyAce says, 'except that's too long'

Bind says, 'can i get sweating?'

Bind says, 'i dont care if its just as long as it isnt flexing'

LadyAce says, 'the slot explains where or how something is being worn or carried about by you'

Kaige says, 'you're sweating muscles? that must hurt'

Kaige giggles.

Cheyla giggles at Kaige.

Kaine chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'usually we try to talk to people and work out something that'll work within the rules, if we have time :)'

LadyAce says, 'so snag someone with time or trade tells/mudmails some evening'


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