Lecture Series Index

July 15th, 2004

Q & A Index

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Boss pounces on LadyAce, bowling her over.

Blackdeath tips his hat gallantly.

LadyAce waves a welcome to Chocorua. Hello!

Boss says, 'lol'

Chocorua says, 'managed to make dinner and still ger here on time!'

LadyAce claps for Chocorua approvingly.

Chocorua says, 'granted dinner was ham and scrambled eggs'

Chocorua scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'sooooo, who has a question?'

Boss says, 'so like... im the only one here'

Boss says, 'ahh company'

Skull says, 'wow, lot of people here'

Boss says, 'yeah i have a question, why not'

LadyAce says, 'you get more personal attention when there are fewer folks here :)'

LadyAce points at Boss.

Boss says, 'if skull has a question he can go, gotta think of wording that wont get me banned'

Skull says, 'true, but more people will make q & a more effective'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Skull.

LadyAce says, 'but, eh, if no one has any questions, what can I do? :)'

Skull nods solemnly.

Skull smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'I'd think people would be bursting with inquiries given the yummy list of code changes the coding staff has for us'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'They were earlier, but they had Huginn to answer them then.'

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Skull says, 'I guess i have a question, does it seem to you guys that the population seem more dead nowadays?'

Huginn didn't think that was it though

LadyAce says, 'our stats do show that our numbers are down from this time last year'

Skull nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'I think Rufus said it came out to about 7 players fewer on average'

Kaige says to Huginn, 'I doubt it was, but took the urgency off for some.'

Kaige says, 'we're still higher than the average from JKune 2002'

Boss says, 'im rdy whenever'

LadyAce points at Boss.

Boss says, 'community aside, whats the real motivation for a one time player to come back and start playing... there hasnt been any real content addition in what - 2 years?'

Boss says, 'no new areas, shrinking playerbase... honestly - why should you play?'

Skull says, 'good question:P'

LadyAce says, 'cool new skills, updates in every area, lots of fun things people haven't even figured out yet'

Kae says, 'well, I have an area update going in tomorrow and with a bit of luck a 300 rooms area on next Friday, does that help?'

Skull says, 'Hell?'

Cheyla says, 'worse'

Kae says, 'The very one, but tomorrow is 'only' an update of Quebec.'

Skull says, 'is Hell the area you are talking about Kae?'

Kae says, 'Yes. A week from now, unless something goes off schedule. I make no guarantee about that.'

Skull nods solemnly.

Boss says, 'cool'

LadyAce says, 'I'd say, though, that the game as a whole is what people come for -- a single new area, or five new areas, aren't going to satisfy someone if they're not interested in the stuff which is older'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'I've done a sweep of other muds this week and I must say that when it comes to interaction between players and mobs/rooms we're the number one.'

Boss says, 'well'

Skull says, 'that may be, but we've been on a decline for i dont know how many years'

Boss says, 'in terms of real competition for players and playhours you have to compare legend to all other mmo's, not just muds'

Boss says, 'whats unique to legend in that aspect'

Kaige says, 'we're text? so we exercise your imagination more?'

Kaige ducks to the ground.

Kae says, 'as I see it, our interaction level is pretty unique. Of course, once you've already done it all it may be easy to forget that'

Kaige says, 'not counting the other muds out there proper, of course.'

Cheyla says, 'you're less likely to require dramamnie to play if you get motion sickness'

Huginn says, 'there's more interaction possible than say diabloII smashing'

Chocorua says to Huginn, 'HEY i just started playing diabloII again yesterday!'

Kae says, 'I did not sweep graphic games, admitted, just text muds and mushes.'

Skull says, 'lol'

Huginn laughs.

Cheyla says, 'even graphical games lack a lot of the interaction you can get here'

Skull says, 'I hate all of Blizzard's games and the way they make them and yet i still feel drawn to DiabloII and starcraft'

Boss says, 'i'd say kae was on the right track with her answer... what about that player thats done it all, gone through all the steps - there are only so many times you can lvl a character from 1 to 50 with a different template'

Kaige says, 'even for a lot of the online graphics mmo's we've got a lot more interaction with the world going on'

Kae says, 'I'd imagine so, making almost unlimited interaction choices in a graphical game would be a coder's nightmare'

LadyAce says, 'I would say that we're lucky to keep people for as long as we're able to. I don't know many games I played 10 years ago that I still enjoy playing now'

Chocorua says to Boss, 'All games run out of content for some people sooner or later ... legend is no different, but we are trying to put out more without putting out crap.'

LadyAce says, 'Nethack, Legend...that's about it'

Kae says, 'Indeed, all games get boring when you've played them through enough times.'

Kae even tired of Black and White after a year or three. Sniff.

Cheyla says, 'if legend bores you, go play something else for a while, there's nothing wrong with taking a break'

Cheyla says, 'when you come back, you may find yourself more interested in it again or find enough has changed...'

Jiriki tips his hat gallantly.

Skull says, 'just not enough pk activity for me:/'

Huginn says, 'or do something really challenging here.. try and motivate people to do X'

Huginn says to Skull, 'Try to stir some up.'

Huginn says, 'that's a challenge :-)'

Skull says, 'oh ive tried'

Kae says, 'well, pk action is something you guys have to provide, we can't code that'

Skull says, 'but it died out quick:P'

Huginn says, 'does that mean it can't be done?'

Huginn says, 'sounds difficult but not impossible'

Skull says, 'well thats the thing, noone seems interested'

Boss says, 'well, havent ppl been trying to do that for years?'

Huginn says, 'interest seems to come in waves..'

Jiriki nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'That's a problem you're going to have to fix as players pretty much -- we do provide an arena and the tools but we can't force -- nor do we want to -- people to be interested in any aspect of the game in particular'

Huginn says, 'just have to get more than 1 small group of people interested at a time'

Cheyla says, 'pke got put back in after so much demand...'

Skull says, 'pke was a good step'

LadyAce says, 'I usually see some deaths during the Battlezone time, so jumping in during those hours would be a way to help kick up the energy level'

Kaige says, 'I dunno.. the levels of activity for pke to pkok/aa to pke have remained pretty much about the same across both changes'

Skull says, 'battlezone hours?'

Kaige says, 'about 10% or less of the complete online players'

LadyAce says, 'in events, the top times for pk action are highlighted with 'PK Battlezone'

Kaige says, 'even has a helpfile'

Jiriki looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'are there other questions out there we can answer for you folks?'

Jiriki says, 'its about the post today for the code change for tomorrow'

LadyAce points at Jiriki.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Jiriki.

Jiriki says, 'it states that hitroll will be determined by your primary weapon stat'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Jiriki says, 'i assume that means that dex wont be as prevailent and that other fighters can get hitroll without dex specialization?'

Huginn says, 'yes they can.. dex gets more though'

Huginn says, 'so they'll hit a little more consistently'

Huginn says, 'but the others won't need to have dex to get hitroll'

Jiriki says, 'how will that work for str hitters? They will get a bit of a bonus because of their damroll off the same stat'

Huginn says, 'might want it for ac though :-)'

Huginn says, 'con and str will get about half of what dex does'

Boss says, 'wow so ill be viable as a str mage, cool'

Boss says, 'the 4 hitroll was cool... but yeah'

Huginn says, 'what'll make str more viable isn't the hitroll though'

Jiriki says, 'what about someone who has the same stat in both dex and str? will only one bonus apply?'

Huginn says, 'its the min weapon damage for heavier weapons imo'

Huginn nods his agreement with Jiriki.

Kae says, 'which one?'

Huginn says, 'actually let me check that..'

Huginn says, 'there might be an additional dex boost'

Jiriki says, 'so what you are saying is that my str hitter with dex and str will LOSE hitroll now?'

Boss says, 'new skills, any info on those?'

Huginn says, 'there's an additional small dex boost'

LadyAce says, 'they'll be cool and people will have fun with them. Helpfiles exist but even I can't read them!'

Huginn says, 'but for the most part its driven off of your weapon stat'

LadyAce says, 'Huginn's info in the LT was really thorough'

LadyAce says, 'you should check out that article for sure if you didn't see it'

Jiriki says, 'so my 40/40 hit/dam str with the same stat in dex will wind up loosing some?'

Huginn says, 'hmm currently I suppose so'

Huginn says, 'why don't you see how they hit first though'

Tah says, 'over already?'

Jiriki says, 'well, I am in the middle of an eq change, and it would be a bugger to have to switch back since this is my 3rd list in a month, and some of the eq is a tad hard to get'

Jiriki peers at himself myopically.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Jiriki was going from dex to str but now....

Jiriki sighs loudly.

Huginn laughs.

Huginn says, 'now its not worth it to be str?'

Huginn says, 'are you sure?'

Tah thinks str is gonna be pretty nice. ;)

Jiriki says, 'do you actually know how many str hitters I have?'

Jiriki chuckles politely.

Kaige would wait until tomorrow or even later to decide that for sure.

Huginn says, 'not a clue..'

Huginn says, 'but you were switching'

Tah nods his agreement with Kaige.

Tah chortles with amusement.

Blackdeath shakes his head.

LadyAce says, 'who else has a question?'

Tah says, 'i got out tanked by dex today, why would you change to str?'

Tah is completely boggled.

Huginn waves a welcome to Natalia. Hello!

Natalia waves hello to the world!

Tah says to LadyAce, 'I had one, but can't remember what it was.'

Jiriki tips his hat gallantly.

LadyAce giggles at Tah.

Tah says, 'oh, foul.'

LadyAce says, 'was it about code changes perhaps?'

Huginn wonders how many people will log in tomorrow at noon

Tah shakes his head.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Tah.

LadyAce says, 'foul it is then'

Tah says, 'just curious if foul can be made to be equal to flavor.'

Tah says, 'as is, an evil druid isn't worth having.'

Natalia giggles.

Tah says, 'in my opinion ;)'

Tah says, '10 str/hit or poison isn't much of a choice ;)'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think that's an area we're really exploring atm'

LadyAce says, 'or at least, I haven't heard any talk about it'

Tah says, 'just a thought, really.'

LadyAce says, 'I'd say, send in your ideas about how to make it work -- seems like it might take more than foul :/ -- and we'll take a look?'

Tah says, 'and a comment for kae, if she's alive. ;)'

Scathniamh knocks Trousers over and flops all over him.

Tah nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'at 3am that's a good question'

Kaige comforts Kae.

Scathniamh whispers quietly to Trousers.

Tah says, 'oh wow.'

Kae says, 'I am'

Tah says, 'she's up late ;)'

Kae says, 'just kind of preoccupied in between'

Scathniamh whispers quietly to Trousers.

Tah says to Kae, 'Shark is way too easy to kill.'

Trousers peers at Scathniamh, looking her up and down.

Scathniamh frowns.

Kae says to Tah, 'Feel very free to idea some nasty improvements to him.'

Kae says, 'he's not meant to be idiot easy although he's too dumb to detect illusions and use magic'

Scathniamh whispers quietly to Kaige.

Tah says to Kae, 'An alt has triggers to reload shoot and get 150k while i'm afk.'

Kae wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Scathniamh giggles at Tah.

Tah nods his agreement with Kae.

Kae says, 'sounds like he needs to pull shooters in and filet them'

Tah says to Kae, 'Hence the comment ;)'

Kae thanks Tah heartily.

Tah nods his agreement with Kae.

Trousers pets Horror lovingly.

Horror licks herself - ICK!

Scathniamh knocks Horror over and flops all over her.

Scathniamh knocks Herbert over and flops all over him.

Horror nods her agreement with Trousers.

Trousers gasps at Herbert.

Horror says, 'never fear, i am here!'

Horror prances about happily.

Herbert swings a turban at Trousers!

Trousers puts an ivory skull in somewhere or other.

Scathniamh taunts Trousers mercilessly with a small piece of paper from Scathniamh.

Trousers swings somewhere or other.

LadyAce says, 'other questions out there?'

Herbert says, 'so uhhhh quiet today eh'

Scathniamh marks a small piece of paper from Scathniamh.

Horror smiles at Kaige.

Scathniamh taunts Trousers mercilessly with a small piece of paper from Scathniamh marked 'Scathniamh's DT EQ'.

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Scathniamh says, 'better'

LadyAce says, 'well, I think Cahira has a question if y'all don't mind keeping the spam to yourselves.'

Trousers nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Scathniamh nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Trousers says, 'I'll be good, LadyAce.'

Scathniamh peers around intently.

LadyAce says, 'oh, no wonder I couldn't point :)'

LadyAce points at Cahira.

Scathniamh giggles.

LadyAce giggles.

Scathniamh comforts LadyAce.

Cahira says, 'Me?'

Cahira says, 'I am probably just slow....'

Herbert says, 'in the words of McDougan the Wise, Spit it oot!'

Cahira says, 'But I do not understand what is meant by primary weapon stat'

Trousers nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert says, 'errr lassie on the end probably'

Tah would like to know how that works, too.

Huginn says, 'str dex or con depending on the weapon..'

Scathniamh says, 'I think that's the biggest one from str con and dex'

Kaige says, 'depends on what type of weapon you're using too...'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Tah says to Huginn, 'Is it wielded slot only, i hope?'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Cahira says, 'So it is just what you have in that stat'

Kaige says, 'if you're using a str weapon... it's str... if you're using a con weapon... etc'

Cahira says, 'like if you have a 100con for a con weapon you will get a nice hitroll bonus?'

Tah says, 'no bonus for hooks, greaves, etc?'

Cahira says, 'Not based on your dex anymore?'

Kaige says to Tah, 'No.'

Cahira says, 'there werent hitroll bonuses for those anyway'

Tah nods his agreement with Kaige.

Huginn says, 'the bonus is from your stat not your weapon'

Cahira says, 'Right'

Trousers sighs loudly.

Huginn says, 'the additional attack just gives you damage.. for greaves and hook'

Cahira says, 'so a 100dex and 100con will be the same bonus?'

Huginn says, 'currently no'

Scathniamh says, 'but will be?'

Cahira says, 'That is what is not making sense to me'

Huginn says, 'dex gets about twice the hitroll'

Horror says, 'ok that fits really'

Scathniamh blinks.

Tah says, 'evan as a secondary stat?'

Horror says, 'dex should'

Scathniamh says, 'wait...'

Huginn says, 'there's a very small increase for dex as a secondary stat'

Scathniamh says, 'so will you get bonuses for your highest stat AND your dex?'

Scathniamh says, 'ah'

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'the primary hitroll is driven off your primary stat though'

Herbert says, 'awesome'

Tah says, 'that was my question, forget the raise ;)'

Horror says, 'what happens if you got expert in 2 stats?'

Herbert says, 'three cheers for the coders i say :)'

Horror says, 'just your weapon?'

Huginn says, 'you can't dual wield'

Tah nods his agreement with Herbert.

Scathniamh says to Horror, 'the weapon, not the skills.'

Scathniamh giggles.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Horror nods her agreement with Huginn.

Scathniamh says, 'Which means it makes more sense to be 100 con now'

Horror says, 'yea 3 cheers there huggin'

Horror cheers for Huginn - huzzah!

Cahira says, 'so the high dex and dex being primary is where you get the double?'

Huginn says, 'cheer for rufus really'

Tah says, 'dex still gets better hit, it sounds, tho.'

Herbert says, 'W00t Rufus :)'

Horror says, 'i will!'

Tah says, 'which is good. ;)'

Herbert says, 'pass that note i sent along to all the other coders too Huginn :)'

Huginn says to Cahira, 'The higher dex gives you more defensive abilities.'

Herbert says, 'or the intent anyway :)'

Horror jumps over Hell.

Huginn says, 'things such as dodge, parry, ac'

Hell pets Horror lovingly.

Scathniamh says, 'ac?'

Herbert says, 'archibald will be scary this time round, 100con 90dex *shudder*'

Scathniamh gasps in astonishment.

Scathniamh says, 'so that's the missing link!'

Scathniamh slaps herself - that looks really strange!

Huginn says, 'ac will be a bit harder to get'

Tah says to Scathniamh, 'Ac becomes godly tomorrow.'

Cahira thinks she is just really slow... working with defiant teens can do that some days.

Huginn says, 'not godly.. just important'

Scathniamh says, 'eq is already heck.'

Scathniamh says to Tah, 'that's okay, i managed to get my list to 100 ac.'

Scathniamh cheers wildly!

Tah says to Huginn, 'We'll see ;)'

Huginn nods his agreement with Tah.

Herbert says, 'yeah i been lookin at that, its like the material/eq changes are gonna coincide with all the other changes to drastically change everything really'

Huginn says to Scathniamh, 'Look for that to drop.'

Scathniamh goes EEK! in distress.

Scathniamh says, 'no!'

Huginn says to Scathniamh, 'Yes!'

Scathniamh says, 'oh, my god! i have gone through so many lists'

Horror laughs.

Scathniamh bursts into tears.

Cheyla chuckles politely.

Huginn says to Scathniamh, 'Level bonus to ac going away!'

Horror says, 'i have dex!'

Horror stomps around.

Scathniamh says, 'level bonus?'

Scathniamh says, 'what level bonus?'

Scathniamh giggles.

Herbert says, 'every level ya get 1ac'

Scathniamh says, 'I'm such a newbie.'

Huginn says, 'its on the list'

Cahira says, 'you get bonus to ac with levels... or did'

Herbert says, 'well -1 yknow..'

Huginn says, 'actually the bonus we're talking about here'

Cahira nods solemnly.

Tah says, 'wow, so we lose 50 ac?'

Scathniamh goes EEK! in distress.

Molath says, 'I think we lose 25'

Huginn says, 'is that the levels used to modify your objs ac'

Scathniamh says, 'Ooh'

Huginn says, 'they don't anymore'

Herbert says, 'ahhhhh'

Scathniamh says, 'Really.'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'part of it anyway'

Huginn says, 'so what the builder put on there is what you get'

Scathniamh says, 'So if a level fifty wore an item, and a level 5 did, the 50 would get more ac from it.'

Huginn says, 'no more bonus boost'

Huginn nods his agreement with Scathniamh.

Herbert says, 'so that one ac i get every level isnt gonna disappear, or is that 1 ac from the level bonus yer talking about and i just never noticed hehe'

Horror says, 'what about people with 100 dex, is there ac going to drop as well?'

Horror says, 'oops i ment to wait sorry'

Huginn says to Herbert, 'That bonus stays.'

Horror bonks herself on the head and looks sheepish.

Herbert nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'cool cool'

Huginn says to Horror, 'Dex still gets their ac bonus.'

Scathniamh says to Huginn, 'one minute you make us love you, the next we hate you. bad huginn.'

Huginn says, 'which will matter more since less will be coming from objs'

Horror says, 'will there ac drop at all?'

Herbert says, 'so basically its just so someone who chooses to go hardcore hitter is gonna take damage much more often'

Huginn expects between 25-30ac for most chars

Huginn says, 'drop'

Herbert says, 'thats fair enough if ya wanna hit like a truck take damage like one'

Horror says, 'omg'

Scathniamh says, 'LOSS?'

Scathniamh says, 'oh, my god.'

Horror says, 'thats alot'

Huginn says, 'maybe less for dex'

Molath says, 'pfft'

Molath says, 'that's what I thought'

Scathniamh says, 'That's...'

Scathniamh says, 'It's going to be impossible.'

Huginn says, 'that's part of the pkg..'

Horror says, 'i bet pk fights will last like 4 rounds now'

LadyAce says, 'you might find it beneficial to shop for stat items with more AC'

Huginn says, 'see how it goes'

Molath says, 'I know of very few -125 ac dexies, a lot are gonna lose their -100'

Scathniamh says, 'But some people aren't pk'

Cahira says, 'I have a con that has a -118'

Scathniamh says to LadyAce, 'with the new changes, it's nearly impossible.'

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Cahira's head.

Scathniamh says, 'with new eq?'

Scathniamh says, 'Or older eq?'

Horror says to Cahira, 'Mage?'

Herbert says, 'is there going to be items with bigger ac around at some point then? cos the list of REALLY good ac items is quite short atm'

Cahira says, 'con fighter...'

Horror says, 'like i thoguht'

LadyAce says to Scathniamh, 'The thing to look for is items whose materials allow a higher AC value.'

Huginn says, 'it'll give builders more choices too to make items that people find very valuable'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Huginn.

Herbert nods solemnly.

Scathniamh says, 'even my metal breastplate is down to 16'

Cahira says, 'but mages have charmies that they inundate their opponents with...'

Scathniamh says, 'from like, 26'

Chocorua says, 'and give it a try before you call it impossible'

Cahira giggles.

Herbert says, 'sorry im a bit outta the loop on material stuff wasnt round so much when that happened hehe'

Kae files away a few bug reports about a clay item that breaks easy. Yes. Clay tends to do that.

Scathniamh says, 'Choc...I HAVE been giving it a try.'

Scathniamh says, 'You don't understand.'

Chocorua says to Scathniamh, 'The code isn't in, try it TOMORROW.'

Scathniamh says, 'That's impossible.'

Huginn says, 'also consider that this effects everyone..'

Scathniamh says, 'I don't know all the new acs'

Herbert says, 'everyones in for the same challenge so i wouldnt say its that bad'

Herbert nods his agreement with Huginn.

Scathniamh says, 'I'm just saying.'

Huginn says, 'not as if you're the only one with crappier ac'

Kae says, 'not at all, just log in tomorrow and bing, the code will be there'

Molath says to Huginn, 'except dex cause mages :P'

Scathniamh says, 'And with the new run changes?'

Kae says, 'not difficult at all'

Chocorua says, 'looks liek you have a lot more content to become an expert at'

Scathniamh bonks Kae on the head!

Huginn says to Molath, 'Other changes effect them.'

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Huginn says to Molath, 'Like hitting from the ground.'

Herbert says, 'yuh gust of winds gonna be rad hehehe'

Cahira is so confused with all the seemingly different ideas that are bouncing around... is afraid she cannot multitask atm.

Scathniamh says, 'We almost got slaughter in PD today.'

Scathniamh says, 'What happens when we lose all the ac?'

Horror says, 'we did not'

Huginn says, 'really? sweet!'

Scathniamh says, 'I mean, he was awful low a couple times.'

Huginn says, 'I look forward to trying that!'

Scathniamh says, 'Imagine if he had less ac.'

LadyAce says to Cahira, 'The general topic is: impact of AC being harder to get.'

Huginn says, 'well mobs have never had much of a problem hitting you.. if they're high level mobs'

Scathniamh says, 'Hitting me?'

Herbert says, 'oh ok i guess i have a question!'

Scathniamh says, 'Oh, I know'

Scathniamh says, 'But one day, I planned to be a tank'

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Huginn says, 'still can'

Scathniamh says, 'yeh, but now it takes WORK'

Scathniamh giggles.

LadyAce says, 'are we done talkin about AC? The other questions are stacking up :)'

Huginn says, 'con dex might be pretty good for tanks these days'

Kae says, 'perish the thought'

Scathniamh says, 'Mage'

Molath says, 'I got an AC question'

Herbert says, 'mines kinda a blended question to this'

Scathniamh says, 'Can't be dex and con. =P'

Molath says, 'are STR items gonna get some AC?'

Molath says, 'or is this just gonna turn into shaft the str more than shafting the dex....again'

Cheyla says, 'strength items aren't changing, specifically'

Herbert says, 'basically i just wanna know if mobs are gonna be bound by the same code as us, so if theyre on the ground theyre boned, and stuff like that'

LadyAce says, 'If you think that an item should offer more AC than it does, idea it'

Horror says, 'seems to me with the recent material changes most items lost ac'

Scathniamh says to Horror, 'at least I won't lose any ac tomorrow. I have no real eq to lose it from.'

LadyAce says, 'the only question on the floor is regarding AC.'

Molath says, 'tr items generally are made of tougher material than the other items but tend to get less AC'

Scathniamh nods her agreement with Horror.

Cheyla says, 'the items getting converted for the new materials may see some changes, but...'

Horror says, 'now were loosing even more'

Herbert says, 'we need Rufus to sneak us a new spec sheet like he did years ago hehe'

Horror says, 'most items ive seen that were changed DROPED ac'

Herbert says, 'cos sure we can grumble about AC on an item but we dont know how much it SHOULD have anymore'

Scathniamh says, 'I haven't seen any that raised AC.'

LadyAce says, 'well, idea that you'd like it to have more :)'

Cheyla says, 'many will have, yes, due to the material of the item'

Scathniamh says, 'And I tried the whole metal angle'

Cheyla says, 'a lot of items were giving too much AC even based on the old AC spec for items'

Scathniamh says, 'Checking metal items since they're tuffer'

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Twilight says, 'sorry, I just got here... what's happening to my AC?'

Cahira says, 'Again, I am sorry.. I am not understanding... Scat asked something about a level 50 getting more ac than a level 5 from an item and Huginn nodded... is that the way it is?'

Herbert says, 'hehehe cuchies shield is a good example, raised a truckload of rent and no real benefit to it'

Molath says to Scathniamh, 'most of the mobs with metal items gained ac, you just dont kill the hard mobs with metal items.'

Molath nods her agreement with Herbert.

Huginn says to Cahira, 'That's the way it used to work yes.'

Herbert says, 'and its like core hitter eq'

Cahira says, 'used to?'

Tah says, 'if the ac change is straight across the board, i really don't see what the problem is.'

Huginn says to Cahira, 'Will change tomorrow.'

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Tah says, 'it effects everyone the same, right?'

Huginn says to Cahira, 'The level 5 will get the same ac from the obj as the lvl 50.'

Horror says, 'i just think the material change is too harsh'

Horror says, 'with the drop of ac on items'

Scathniamh says to Tah, 'you see, with the material changes, most eq lost ac.'

Scathniamh says to Tah, 'lOTS of ac.'

LadyAce says, 'alright, let's go ahead and move on to Horror's question, and if there are new comments about items & AC, please re-raise to have that topic added.'

Tah says to Scathniamh, 'I think that was something they kinda did on purpose, with this change in mind.'

LadyAce points at Horror.

Horror says, 'huggin answered mine alreayd'

Horror says, 'move along please'

LadyAce says, 'super, Herbert is next'

Horror says, 'nothing to see here'

LadyAce points at Herbert.

Herbert says, 'are mobs bound by same code changes, like is it an engine change or not?'

Herbert says, 'so if i make a mob sit down is it gonna hit crappier like we're gonna?'

Horror says, 'good question herby'

Horror pats Herbert on the head.

Herbert says, 'just curiosity really'

Herbert says, 'gotta start plannin new tactics and whatnot'

Herbert giggles.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'yes'

Huginn says, 'it'll hit worse'

Horror cheers wildly!

Herbert says, 'excellente!'

Herbert says, 'ok thas me :)'

LadyAce says, 'next up is Molath'

LadyAce points at Molath.

Molath says, 'ok I was wondering'

Molath says, 'I've seen entrance and headbutt have this removed'

Molath says, 'and I was wondering if the same effect is gonna be removed from backstab:'

Scathniamh blinks.

Molath says, 'when kill entrance something or headbutt something, you used to get a free round'

Molath says, 'I know it was removed with entrance, and it was streamlined for headbutt this week'

Huginn says, 'no plans to remove that from backstab'

Molath snorts derisively.

Molath says, 'so essentially, you let the sniper have his way with the backstabee for one round, thereby killing the lag and giving him flee time'

Cahira waves happily.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'yes'

Huginn says, 'snipers aren't overpowered atm AFAIK'

Tah says, 'incite doesn't catch them, either.'

Scathniamh says, 'afaik?'

Molath says, 'AFAIK?'

Herbert says, 'as far as i know'

Scathniamh giggles.

Huginn says, 'as far as I know'

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Tah says to Huginn, 'I disagree.'

Huginn says, 'ok'

Molath says, 'yeah I lost two fights yesterday because that stupid extra backstab round meant they fled before entrance went off'

Herbert says, 'go invis and entrance them *grin*'

Molath says, 'and if they jump me?'

Huginn says, 'they can backstab you for that free round once per tick'

Chocorua says, 'run'

Horror says, 'running is fun :P'

LadyAce says, 'I think that answers the question, unless there's more to clarify? :)'

Tah nods his agreement with Horror.

Molath says to Huginn, 'snipers arent retarded, they'll jump at end of tick, and if they flee then, they get almost 200 free damage before I can touch them.'

Huginn says, 'so you're saying one round per tick is going to kill you..'

Horror says, 'i run like the biggest bitch i swear'

Ransom says, 'running is a learned behavior... one that I have not learned yet'

Horror says, 'casting wall of fog all the way'

LadyAce says, 'balance is always a rathole :) re-raise if you want this to be a new topic.'

Horror nods to herself.

Twilight says, 'think about it logically... if you've just been stabbed in the back, then you're probably going to be slightly caught off guard'

LadyAce says, 'we're going to move on.'

Huginn says, 'well at least now they'll do less damage on paras :-)'

Tah says to Huginn, 'Backstab initiates combat, i should be able to incite right after it.'

LadyAce says, 'next question comes from Tah.'

LadyAce points at Tah.

Horror nods her agreement with Huginn.

Herbert says, 'i used to incite right after a backstab'

Herbert is completely boggled.

Tah says, 'ok, would just like to hear how this headbutt change works, if that's not asking too much. I understand that secondary attacks can kinda make them hit back?'

Tah says to Herbert, 'Maybe i'm wrong.'

Huginn says, 'headbutts will be slighly longer..'

Tah says to Huginn, 'The round?'

Horror says, 'kool con here i come'

Herbert says, 'could be just unlucky pulse behavior or somethin...'

Huginn says, 'so it used to be that about half the time you headbutt, they get up and hit you'

Huginn says, 'at the end of the round'

Molath nods her agreement with Huginn.

Molath says, 'I hated that so much'

Tah says to Huginn, 'More than half, but ok.'

Huginn says, 'now you'll get the full round most times.. but if you have additional attacks, that shortens stuns'

Huginn says, 'as you no doubt know'

Herbert says, 'k im gonna run, thanks for the info immys, cya all next time'

Tah says, 'i had no idea of that.'

Huginn says, 'nod'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Molath says, 'herbert! have my children!'

Tah says, 'now i see, thanks ;)'

Twilight says, 'argh... changes are so bloody confusing'

Twilight scratches his head in puzzlement.

Tah nods his agreement with Twilight.

LadyAce says, 'next up is Molath'

LadyAce points at Molath.

Huginn says to Twilight, 'That's exciting!'

Huginn says to Twilight, 'Not confusing.'

LadyAce says, 'keep on raising, keep on askin, 'til the questions get answered :)'

Twilight says, 'exciting yes, but also confusing'

Molath says, 'so did we cover this earlier I was out, I dont know, but about the PK melee reductions'

Huginn says, 'haven't covered that'

Huginn says, 'what's the question?'

Molath says, 'this means fights will be quicker?'

Molath says, 'well, melee dependent fights'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'and fighters will be more effective'

Huginn says, 'since their primary weapon will be nerfed less'

Molath says, 'and parry and block have been rescaled to factor in lower attack weapons?'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement.

Molath pouts at Huginn.

Huginn says, 'no.. the lower attack weapons get a big bonus tomorrow'

Huginn says, 'in terms of the min damage'

Huginn says, 'that's a tradeoff'

Huginn says, 'that said.. if they are dodging/parrying, knock them down'

Huginn says, 'that should help more'

LadyAce says, 'other questions/comments about melee combat?'

LadyAce says, 'Horror is up next'

Molath says, 'yes, give fighters more rent :P'

LadyAce points at Horror.

Scathniamh giggles.

Horror says, 'what about charmies in combat i mean like there ac vs hit and all?'

Molath says, 'that or permanent scale down those brines :P'

Horror says, 'there effectivness changed?'

Huginn says, 'I'd say they'll be about the same'

Horror says, 'caster = effectivness?'

Horror says, 'i mean with no ac on a doppel'

Horror says, 'jezzz its slayed :P'

Huginn says, 'ah the weaker ones might get tagged more'

Huginn says, 'but if someone has low ac, they're going to hit more too'

Huginn says, 'the charmies will hit them more too is what I mean'

Molath says, 'hit or get hit?'

Huginn says, 'so call it a tradeoff'

Horror says, 'so if lets say my as is low i get more hit?'

Scathniamh says, 'He meant..'

Horror says, 'er as=ac'

Scathniamh says, 'If the other person's ac is low.'

Scathniamh says, 'I think'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Horror says, 'oh ok'

Horror is completely boggled.

LadyAce says, 'no no, AC isn't going to help you hit. Just get you hurt or not so hurt.'

Twilight nods his agreement with Horror.

Horror nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Scathniamh says, 'everyone's ac drops.'

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Horror says, 'i get it now'

Molath says, 'oooh'

Scathniamh says, 'which means the charmy hits more'

Molath says, 'well what about a better chance to hit based on your eq weight'

Huginn nods his agreement with Scathniamh.

Horror says, 'ok ok i got ya'

Horror says, 'but they last shorter in combat'

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Molath says, 'I mean, plate mail wearing 50/50 vs suit wearing 50/50, the suit wearer should be way more agile, is that reflected at all yet?'

Horror says, 'maybe you will need to shorten the summoning lag time now :P'

Scathniamh says, 'because the other person hits harder, as well.'

Huginn says to Horror, 'We'll see :-)'

Horror prances in circles around Huginn, smiling happily.

Horror says, 'thats a no :P'

Horror ducks to the ground.

Molath says, 'bah, I'll tell you about wixen yesterday and summoning lag sometime'

Scathniamh says to Horror, 'it'd make sense for them to.'

Horror nods her agreement with Scathniamh.

Molath says, 'you know your PK fight is too long when: the create summons 3 angels'

Horror chuckles politely.

Huginn says to Molath, 'Not sure I'm following your question.'

Twilight giggles.

Molath says to Huginn, 'i thought horror went off about summoning lag.'

Molath says to Huginn, 'wait you mean my 50/50 example?'

Huginn nods his agreement with Molath.

Molath says to Huginn, 'the arguement there is that someone wearing lighter eq should be able to move around more.'

Horror says, 'yeah thats what i was thinking'

Molath says, 'I mean, take two 50/50 chars with equal stats, and have one wear a cloth body item vs a plate mail body item'

Scathniamh says, 'get more hit, more dodge, etc.'

Huginn says to Molath, 'Not sure that's reflected.'

Molath says, 'the plate mail will win with what you've told us'

Huginn says, 'ah'

Molath says, 'but in fact, the lighter eq should mean moving around faster'

Molath says, 'and this hitting more and being hit less'

Huginn says, 'ok actually it depends on what they're getting hit with'

LadyAce says, 'The situation is more complex than that, because cloth has different resistances to different attacks than the metal'

Huginn says, 'cloth vs metal'

Molath says, 'I know about that'

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Molath says, 'and weapon vs weapon, yes yes'

LadyAce says, 'but we don't giv eyou a dex boost for wearing tights'

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Molath says, 'but same weapon, everything the same, but one guy is using cloth and is thusd wearing 15 kg of eq less than the other dude'

Twilight laughs.

Huginn says, 'or a fashion ticket'

Horror chuckles politely.

Molath says, 'I mean I just think that'd be decently easy to reflect'

Scathniamh says, 'eh, not so easy, I think'

Kaige says, 'one will hold up better than the other too.'

Twilight says, 'why not a low eq weight gives bonus to dodge skill'

Molath says, 'yes, but what about the stamina of swinging the weapon around wearing 15 kg more of body weight'

Lorenzo lies down on a giant watermelon.

LadyAce says, 'I think we probably cover the material stuff well enough in some other places'

Molath says, 'yes, just a thought, lighter eq doesnt always have to be so...bad in that respect I think'

Molath says, 'I mean when you play D & D, you dont wear full plate mail on the thief for a reason :P'

LadyAce says, 'did we cover your question, though?'

Cheyla says, 'i think fighting and using skills like kick should cost you movement, and the weight you carry figure into that, but...'

Molath says to Cheyla, 'but how hard would that be to code.'

Cheyla shrugs helplessly.

Cheyla says, 'i'm not a coder'

Molath says to Cheyla, 'poor huggin's been slaving away already :P'

Horror laughs.

Molath says to Cheyla, 'yes but if it's impossible to code, 3 years from now it'll be put in :P'

Chocorua says, 'would take a LOT of coding to add it but not impossible'

Chocorua says, 'well a lot of copy and paste coding'

Twilight says, 'realistically fighting should take movement'

Twilight shrugs helplessly.

Kae says, 'definitely a project worth assigning some unfortunate person to sometime'

Scathniamh says, 'But then what happens if you run out of mv while fighting?'

Lorenzo says, 'eek'

LadyAce says, 'eh, you take a nap!'

Scathniamh giggles.

Chocorua says, 'yer screwed?'

Molath says, 'then it's agreed, we'll chain huginn to the mud server, and he'll emerge every 6 months for sunlight'

Cheyla says, 'you stand there and get hit?'

Huginn says, 'I get sunlight?'

Nanaimo cheers for Huginn - huzzah!

Scathniamh says, 'you'd probably have to give people more mv'

Molath says to Huginn, 'just enough so your rickets done become a problem.'

Nanaimo says to Huginn, 'You're moving on up in this world.'

Lorenzo says to Huginn, 'it's a good deal, better take it before it gets worse.'

Kae says to Huginn, 'We'll bring you some in a bottle when you make commits.'

Huginn laughs.

Huginn says, 'no sunlight for me then'

Cheyla snickers softly.

Molath says to Huginn, 'just do the weight thing with hitroll, it's soo easy to code :p'

Huginn says, 'that rufus though, he'll get burned to a crisp!'

Scathniamh snorts derisively.

Horror snickers softly.

Molath says to Huginn, 'will you be using him as firewood?'

Huginn says to Molath, 'Rather do other stuff :-)'

Huginn says to Molath, 'All that bottled sunlight!'

LadyAce says, 'I think this counts as a digression :) who else has questions?'

Horror says, 'afk a sec'

Scathniamh says, 'he did it!'

Scathniamh points at Huginn.

Molath says to Huginn, 're-enact the salem witch trials at sandra's place to make sure she got em right, rufus is the witch :p'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Scathniamh giggles.

LadyAce says, 'there's no such thing as a solo digression :)'

Scathniamh says, 'I wasn't talking that much!'

Scathniamh whimpers softly.

Twilight pats Scathniamh on the head.

Molath says to LadyAce, 'you started it! *duck* *zip*'

Scathniamh says, 'for once, I was being good.'

Scathniamh pouts.

LadyAce says, 'any questions? Going once...?'

Lorenzo digresses by himself all the time. People get quiet and start to look at him funny, and nobody moves.

LadyAce points at Molath.

Molath says, 'is perc a fight stat yet? =)'

Molath says, 'I just want *one* last thing, it's my rant for the day'

Huginn says, 'no'

Huginn says, 'probably won't be'

Huginn says, 'we looked at perc raising min weapon damage'

Huginn says, 'and it was fairly scary'

Molath says, 'I just see the free stats con snipers get as unjustified'

Huginn says, 'so we took it out'

Molath says, '5 spirit min :P'

Molath says, '25 str'

Molath says, '25 mind, and you've got nearly 300 stat points for 3 stats'

Molath says, 'just about the only class that can do that'

Horror waves happily.

Molath says, 'anyway, food for thought, it's a sad day when you can feasibly have a 95 dex 95 con 100 perc sniper'

Twilight says, 'not sad, spiffy'

Scathniamh giggles at Twilight.

LadyAce says, 'any last questions? Comments, concerns, feedback?'

Molath says, 'well, 94 con to be technical, but you get the idea :p'

LadyAce points at Twilight.

Twilight says, 'I know this is late coming and all but what's the reasoning behind the AC change?'

Twilight says, 'just because I missed the beginning...'

Huginn says, 'because ac was too common and pop was wearing a bag and complaining about it?'

Huginn giggles.

Twilight shrugs helplessly.

Twilight says, 'good enough'

Huginn says, 'seriously not just pop..'

Scathniamh says, 'so kill pop'

Huginn says, 'when you had people with less than 30 dex that had -100ac, that's a problem'

Scathniamh says, 'is not!'

Twilight says, 'I liked my -60 AC'

Twilight sniffles quietly.

Scathniamh says, 'it's hard to get con and mind and ac and another stat'

Lorenzo says to Scathniamh, 'that's the point, I think.'

Lorenzo says, 'that is should be hard'

Scathniamh says, 'But it already is!'

Huginn says to Scathniamh, 'Not that hard.'

Chocorua says to Scathniamh, 'Not really.'

Scathniamh says, 'Oh, it is, if you want hit/dam'

Scathniamh says, 'Except with these new changes..'

Lorenzo says, 'but if hit is easier to get now....'

Scathniamh says, 'Wow. I'm gonna kick without all my +hit gear'

Scathniamh stomps around.

Scathniamh says, 'You guys are gonna make me make another list!'

Scathniamh whimpers softly.

Scathniamh says, 'I hate you all.'

Scathniamh pouts.

Huginn says, 'sure here it is'

Cheyla says, 'now, hit/dam isn't con/mind/another stat and ac'

Twilight hugs Scathniamh.

Huginn has created a postcard!

Huginn gives a postcard to Scathniamh.

Scathniamh cheers wildly!

Chocorua says to Scathniamh, 'Do what yer good at .. if making lists is yer thing...'

Scathniamh says, 'For a tank, hit/dam are kinda important'

Cheyla says, 'if you're going for hit/dam you haveta make a sacrifice somewhere'

Huginn says, 'for a tank? for a hitter.. yes'

Scathniamh says, 'Yes, but a tank is more valuable if they can hit.'

Scathniamh says, 'And I don't mean really hit'

Scathniamh says, 'I mean like, 20/20'

Twilight says, 'tank just stands there and sucks up damage'

Huginn says, 'sure and if they can dance too'

Huginn says, 'but for the most part..get hit and rescue'

Cheyla says, 'and make pretty lights...'

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Scathniamh says, 'I'm going to be a failure.'

Scathniamh says, 'I'm cause. Not create'

Scathniamh says, 'I can't make lights'

Scathniamh bursts into tears.

Lorenzo says, 'don't forget complaining when they get rescued, they need that skill too'

Twilight says, 'maybe I'll just perma all my characters and start over'

Twilight looks up into the sky and ponders.

Scathniamh giggles at Twilight.

Twilight says, 'except this one'

Twilight hugs himself in front of everyone - what a narcissist!

Huginn says, 'why would you need to perma them?'

Lorenzo says to Twilight, 'yeah, better watch out for that character limit.'

LadyAce says, 'are there other questions out there?'

Scathniamh says, 'Maybe.'

Scathniamh says, 'Let me think'

Scathniamh looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'Going once.....:)'

Scathniamh thinks reeeeeeally hard.

Scathniamh sighs loudly.

Scathniamh shakes her head.

LadyAce says, 'going twiiiiiiiiiice.........'

Scathniamh says, 'my bulb left with my eq'

Scathniamh says, 'sorry.'

Twilight says, 'ooh! Can I have some money?'

Twilight gives a firm poke in the ribs to everyone in the room.

Scathniamh laughs.

LadyAce says, 'Q&A, questions answered, going three times....'

Scathniamh says, 'Oh!'

Kaige gives you 239867234 gold coins.

Scathniamh says, 'This doesn't matter, but'

SMACK! LadyAce bangs a gavel closing the session.

Twilight drools contentedly.

Scathniamh says, 'How much do tokens start at usually?'

Lorenzo gives Twilight a nickel, kid.

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

Kaige says, '1 lt article'

Scathniamh says, 'See, I found one on my alt...and I need to know what to sell it for.'

Scathniamh giggles.

Scathniamh says, 'No!'

Scathniamh says, 'sell on auction'

Twilight says, 'start it at 50'

Scathniamh giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I've seen them go for 25k or 100k.'

Twilight shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Chocorua waves happily.

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Chocorua says, 'have a good evening'

LadyAce says, 'thanks for coming everyone'

LadyAce waves happily.

Molath runs in circles around LadyAce, squealing loudly.

Lorenzo says, 'I offered one for 20k coupla days ago and it finally sold for 95.'

Molath sniffs sadly at Lorenzo.

Molath faints.

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Scathniamh says, 'Just needed to know where to start it'

Lorenzo says, 'I think 20 was a more fair price though'

Molath tugs on Kae's sleeve imploringly.

Twilight says to Scathniamh, 'You could give it to me, I'd give it a good home.'

Scathniamh says to Twilight, 'this is my level 7 alt who has exactly 0 gold.'

Scathniamh says to Twilight, 'she can't even buy food or a light.'

Twilight says, 'ah'

Lorenzo says, 'start at 20. if people want it, they'll compete for it.'

Scathniamh nods solemnly.

Twilight says to Scathniamh, 'You could give it to me, I'd give it a good home...'

Twilight winks suggestively.

Lorenzo shrugs helplessly.

Scathniamh snorts in disbelief at Twilight's last comment.

Huginn waves happily.

Scathniamh bonks Twilight on the head!

Cheyla waves happily.

Molath salutes Kae briskly. Why don't people obey YOU like that?

Molath says, 'ferret militia....PRE-SENT!'

Twilight nods solemnly.

Twilight waves happily.

LadyAce says, 'g'night'

LadyAce waves happily.

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.


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