Lecture Series Index

November 18th, 2004

Q & A Index

Topics Covered

PK Balance?
More Info in Help Hands?
Druids Overpowered?
Pkill Status?
Bug with Snipe?
Dual School Mages?
Quaff During Combat?
Old Blind vs New Blind?
Dispel Illusion Directable?
Perc & Detect Illusion?
Old Blind and PK?
Problems with Create Mages?
When PK Meeting Rescheduled For?
PK Doubles Tournament?
Changes with Scan

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PK Balance?

Spanish-Flea says, 'what if any are the next changes to balance out the incredibly effed up Pk system?'

Huginn says, 'there are no problems.. these are not the droids you're looking for.'

Spanish-Flea says, 'as players we've whined enough that you should have some idea as to what to do :P'

Sandra says, 'Sniper changes'

Huginn says, 'we'll be toning up snipers a bit..'

Spanish-Flea says, 'sniper changes? hahaha'

Huginn says, 'toning down ironwill str..'

Spanish-Flea says, 'hooray for con dex'

Huginn says, 'toning up ironwill dex and con (a little)'

Spanish-Flea rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Spanish-Flea says, 'this wont solve problems, this will just make molath a god'

Huginn says, 'reducing the secondary attack power'

Spanish-Flea says, 'again, this will just make molath a god'

Huginn says, 'why is that?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'she's con dex'

Spanish-Flea says, 'no str iron will'

Huginn says, 'ok'

Huginn says, 'and reducing the impact of obj dam and hitroll'

Huginn says, 'that's for the start'

Spanish-Flea looks up into the sky and ponders.

Spanish-Flea says, 'wont that essentially cancel out the changes of the past few months in effect?'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement.

Huginn says, 'not really'

Huginn says, 'oh and when I say toning down str ironwill'

Spanish-Flea says, 'frequency or damage?'

Huginn says, 'what I also mean is that the cheeesy hitters won't get activations on the same level they do now'

Huginn says, 'surgery and entrance will impact activation rates'

Spanish-Flea says, 'hooray'

Spanish-Flea says, 'no more outhitting drakkon'

Huginn says, 'damage will also be removed for secondaries'

Huginn says, 'from iron will'

Spanish-Flea says, 'so, essentially'

Spanish-Flea says, 'just the way I understand the Pk structure now'

Huginn waits for it.

Spanish-Flea says, 'you're going to lower fighters (ok) lower druid standing (ok), do nothing to the klein bonus (debatable), and thus implicity just plop damn near 100 mind mages back to king cobra again?'

Sandra says, 'heh no'

Huginn says, 'well we'll see where we are aftter these changes'

Spanish-Flea says, 'can I place a 100:1 bet that we'll be at druid mage hegemony again?'

Huginn says, 'the player vs player damage will remain the same.. fighters should still stand a good chance'

Huginn says, 'right now the complaint is that fighers rip through everyone'

Spanish-Flea says, 'hehe, yeah'

Huginn says, 'so we'll see how they do afterwards'

Spanish-Flea says, 'thats not only iron will'

Spanish-Flea says, 'the underlying problem is ac and headbutt in most cases'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and I think until you address the fact that headbutt is free damage for con, even after those changes you mentioned, and that fighters (with secondaries) often cant manage AC even rivalling a mage'

Spanish-Flea says, 'speaking on that obj damage reduction'

Spanish-Flea says, 'does that mean another set of old damage eq?'

Huginn says, 'no'

Spanish-Flea says, 'so, loosely speaking, strength now has a larger impact on how hard you can hit'

Spanish-Flea says, 'will have rather'

Huginn says, 'the str stat, yes'

Huginn says, 'you'll get more out of your str than you will out of objs'

Satire says, 'as opposed to dam roll? or as opposed to iron will? (sorry, i'm late)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and as for sniper changes you mentioned'

Spanish-Flea says, 'any specifics? will it be perc based changes or dex based changes?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'because if it's dex based, I could just french kiss you right now'

Huginn says, 'sniper changes are perc'

Spanish-Flea says, 'hooray!'

Huginn says, 'and aimed at higher perc'

Spanish-Flea gives Huginn a polite golf clap - sarcasm is heavy in the air.

Huginn says, 'not 80'

Satire says, 'ooh'

Spanish-Flea claps for Huginn approvingly.

Satire says, 'so it's sort of an exponential scale?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'exponential on a 20 stat range?'

Satire says, 'well, just the shape of the graph'

Huginn says, 'not exponential.. just low bonus at 80'

Satire nods solemnly.

Satire says, 'i'm sorry if we're repeating, but what will the bonus be?'

Huginn says, 'there's a few changes'

Huginn says, 'one of which will be called shots'

Huginn says, 'so you can shoot spanish head'

Huginn says, 'as an example'

Dalia says, 'at 100 perc, you get slay skill. at 90 you can steal sandras bow, at 80 you get "junk shot"'

Sandra giggles.

Dalia says, 'wow, im a jerk... i should leave'

Dalia tips her hat gallantly.

Huginn says, 'so you take a chance that you'll miss outright'

Huginn says, 'assuming you hit, it helps your shot's power'

Satire is completely boggled.

Huginn says, 'increases your chance of stunning etc'

Satire says, 'wow...'

Spanish-Flea says, 'um'

Satire says, 'so you increase stun AND miss chance...'

Spanish-Flea says, 'will it increase the length of that stun?'

Kaige says, 'can we shoot people in the kneecaps?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'because right now a stun for a sniper doesnt mean a whole lot'

Satire says, 'sounds fair (and fun)'

Huginn says to Kaige, 'Leg :-)'

Sandra says, 'close enough!'

Kaige wants kneecaps, specifically...

Kaige grins evilly.

Huginn says to Spanish-Flea, 'A stun is a free backstab.'

Sandra giggles.

Huginn says to Spanish-Flea, 'That counts.'

Spanish-Flea says to Huginn, 'you obviously dont play a sniper.'

Huginn says, 'also lowered the rush chances'

Spanish-Flea says to Huginn, 'dont make me get 35 kills vendetta in here to tell you something about stuns and backstabs.'

Satire says, 'i think he's referring to people waking up LONG before shoot lag is done'

Satire says, 'it's just so random'

Huginn says, 'sprawls will actually lag your victim now as well'

Satire says, 'ooh...'

Huginn says, 'we can look at that'

Satire says, 'so will head and leg be equally hard to hit?'

Huginn says, 'no.. leg shots are easier and do less'

Satire nods solemnly.

Satire says, 'okay, sounds fair'

Huginn says, 'also if you try to snipe and fail, aiming will help the chance of a stunning shot'

Huginn says, 'btw did I mention hand shots?'

Satire says, 'ooh... nice! hand shots (speaking of "help hands")'

Huginn says, 'increased chances of disarming someone'

Huginn shrugs helplessly.

Huginn says, 'tainted arrows will do closer to normal arrow damage'

Huginn rambles on apparently

Satire gives Huginn a huge bearhug - your ribs ache in sympathy.

Satire cheers for Huginn - huzzah!

Satire says to Huginn, 'Those changes sound really good to me!'

Huginn says, 'you'll be able to shoot in a direction'

Huginn says, 'shoot guard north'

Huginn says, 'shoot guard head north'

Huginn says, 'etc'

Huginn says, 'that said, this week I'd like a few sniper volunteers over on the testmud'

Satire knocks Huginn over and flops all over him.

Huginn says, 'just to make sure I didn't miss anything huge'


More Info in Help Hands?

Satire says, 'can we get a little more info on "help hands"? it doesn't seem right that i can make a whole equip set only to find out when i get to the last piece that i can't hold both items in my hands'

Sandra says to Satire, 'Put that on idea?'

Satire says to Sandra, 'I just don't know how to tell that this scale is so huge.'

Sandra giggles.

Satire says, 'i want to hold a horn and a scale... there's no indication that they're too big for me to hold unless it's too late'



Satire says, 'did headbutt get discussed?'

Huginn says, 'not really'

Satire says, 'right now, headbutt is still like a free backstab if you go up against a con/str fighter'

Spanish-Flea says, 'better'

Huginn says to Satire, 'Some of that damage stuff got discussed.'

Satire says, 'i know you're reducing damroll, but a 100 con/100 str fighter will do 100 hps per round with headbutt'

Spanish-Flea says, 'backstab is once per tick :P'

Satire says, 'but hb is every 2 rounds, of course'

Spanish-Flea says to Huginn, 'argue with LD satire.'

Huginn says to Satire, 'Reducing obj hitroll and damage roll.'


Druids Overpowered?

Sana says, 'I have one for huginn'

Sana says, 'why are druids broke and why do they suck'

Huginn says, 'they suck?'

Somar peers at Sana, looking her up and down.

Sandra says, 'that's helpful :P'

Huginn says, 'and they're broken?'

Sana says, 'as in the they are annoying suck'

Sana says, 'they broke because they broke me'

Sandra giggles.

Huginn says, 'let me say huh?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Spanish-Flea.

Sana says, '...'

Ebiko says, 'I think she's saying druids eat people burp if the people are not strcon or something'

Huginn says, 'can you be a bit more specific?'

Huginn says, 'ah'

Sana says, 'can we put a timer on poultices in pk?'

Sana says, 'one per tick'

Ebiko says, 'dunno though, sana is not very specific'

Ebiko peers at Sana, looking her up and down.

Spanish-Flea says, 'one per tick wont do anything but make their jiob easier'

Huginn says, 'ok well are we talking straight stat druids or obj pumped up druids?'

Huginn says, 'druids have always been something you need to squash and keep squashing..'

Sana says, 'straight stat'

Spanish-Flea says, 'yeah, good thing that go so much easier with the advent of perc-lagged hunt'

Sana says, 'all druids are cheap!'

Huginn says, 'its their thing..'

Sana says, 'AA asterix and chandler!'

Huginn says, 'not sure where you're going here.. a druid has to have 80 spirit and herbs'

Sana says, 'lets boost it to 90'

Spanish-Flea says, 'a druid can curse the herbs'

Huginn says, 'in order to do a good job healing'

Sana says, 'or 100'

Ebiko says, 'take the stupid stun out of hb'

Ebiko ducks to the ground.

Ebiko says, '(is where I am coming from!)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'or belt pouch the herbs'

Ebiko says, 'the full stun no fight'

Huginn says to Ebiko, 'Maybe.'

Sandra says to Ebiko, 'Wait your turn :P'

Ebiko hangs her head.

Spanish-Flea says, 'trust me, the last person stupid enough to steal my druid's herbs lost his only fight to me'

Dalia says, 'I have an idea what to do about druids...'

Dalia says, 'wait, no i dont'

Sana says, 'pk augment and pke contradictory flags'

Sana says, 'like chant and iron will'

Sandra says, 'we should just take out all the skills and spells, and make everyone just have to use kill'

Dalia says, 'Oooh actually I do!'

Sana says, 'yes!'

Huginn says, 'ok so which druid has been abusing you?'

Sana says, 'I can spam kill faster!'

Spanish-Flea says, 'all of them'

Sana says, 'chandlersterix'

Spanish-Flea says, 'we take turns abusing'

Sana says, 'okay no seriously'

Huginn says to Sana, 'You should have zero problem with druids.'

Dalia says, 'But it will screw over druids in mobkill, which is not what i think you're looking for'

Sana says, 'one of the druids abusing me just asked me if I knew you could snipe through locked doors'

Sana says, 'does that sound like someone who should be winning like all their fights!!'

Sana bursts into tears.

Dalia says, 'What if druids poultices healed, gradually?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'thats how stupid they are'

Spanish-Flea says, 'huginn, I dont know where you're coming from'

Vendetta says, 'And who would ever tell him that you could snipe through doors?'

Dalia says, 'cause after all... the herb has to have time to go through your bloodstream'

Spanish-Flea says, 'but no druid should have any sana trouble'

Spanish-Flea says, 'he's just a 550 hp runt'

Spanish-Flea says, 'they're like 2000 hp squishers'

Dalia says, 'So, if you apply a poultice to yourself'

Dalia says, 'in 30 seconds, you'll get healed half the hps of the auggie'

Dalia says, 'then another 30 seconds'

Dalia says, 'the rest of the healing power kicks in'

Spanish-Flea says, 'that'll just slow down fights'

Dalia says, 'So?'

Ebiko says, 'and make surgeons even more silly than they are now'

Ebiko says, 'and make druids outside of pk utterly pointless'

Huginn says, 'a sana army squishing a druid seems pretty doable'

Ebiko says, 'AND draw out the pk fights solving nothing'

Sana says, 'well lets go see'

Dalia says, 'Well, then theres no answer to it'

Sana says, 'supposed to fight asterix in a minute'

Huginn says, 'ok'

Dalia says, 'Druids are doing what they were intended to do'

Huginn says, 'hmm fight him next week and then talk to me'



Vendetta says, 'Is retreat a skill that's there to look good but never work?'

Huginn says, 'retreat chances will be looked at and most likely raised'

Vendetta says, 'Because, it never fails on stunned/para people, and NEVER succeeds on standing opponents'

Vendetta says, 'I mean, you can't expect 100% success'

Vendetta says, 'but I failed 12 retreats from barney, 2 times in a row'

Sana says, 'but at lest 20%'

Dalia says, 'yes you can :P'

Ebiko says, 'if I'm sitting down can you retreat?'

Ebiko says, '(er not being irritating)'

Huginn says to Ebiko, 'It makes it a lot easier.'

Ebiko says, 'well mebbe I am but was a serious question'

Ebiko says, 'ahso'

Vendetta says to Ebiko, 'i can't bash you then retreat.'

Ebiko says, 'oh I was thinking that horrid sastram er'

Sana says, 'maybe retreat'

Sana says, 'OH!'

Sana says, 'oh oh oh'

Ebiko says, '(sorry =( ( )'

Sana says, 'lets make retreat like old wimpy!'

Vendetta says to Ebiko, 'maybe if the gae bolg cast gust of wind.'

Sana says, 'woo!'

Vendetta hugs Sana.

Vendetta says, 'YES'

Sana says, 'that way stupid snipers can kick and flee but stupid warriors cant'

Ebiko says, 'I kinda like that idea'

Asterix says, 'why can't stupid warriors flee?'

Asterix says, 'or why shouldn't they be able to?'

Ebiko says, 'that wasn't what she said'

Ebiko flops about helplessly.

Dalia says, 'we're too stupid to know where to run to?'

Ebiko says, 'or meant'

Asterix giggles.

Ebiko says, 'mebbe it's what she said'

Sana laughs at Vendetta.

Sandra says, 'so anyway'

Sandra says, 'it looks as though it'll be looked into'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Sandra says to Vendetta, 'Work for you?'

Vendetta nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra smiles happily.


Pkill Status?

Dalia says, 'I just wanted to know, if the immortal staff is "satisfied" with the way pkill has been going in the last 3 months or so'

Huginn says, 'well that's not a code question.'

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'respond!'

Dalia says, 'thats why i said to take asterix first :P'

Sandra says, 'as always, some of us dislike the problems pkill causes with the game itself. But there are others that think pk is working pretty well'

Sandra says, 'that what you mean?'

Dalia says, 'do you find it progresssing?'

Huginn says, 'pkill is better than Cats! I want to see it again and again!'

Ebiko says, 'this sounds like a medical report'

Ebiko says, 'or autopsy'

Dalia says, 'autopsy more like it :P'

Ebiko giggles at Dalia.

Sandra says, 'yea, I do see it progressing. As shown in the contest I had'

Vendetta says to Sandra, '...'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'it has raised some pk.'

Dalia says, 'Any planned changes for the clanning system in the future?'

Sandra says, 'none that I"m aware of'

Dalia nods solemnly.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'it should raise it some more.'

Sandra says to Dalia, 'That answer for ya?'

Dalia nods solemnly.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'i still suggested modified infos for PK clans.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'and ladyace said she'd think about it.'

Sandra says, 'we've been tossing that idea aroun for years'

Dalia says, 'I just think work on the clanning system would be cool'

Sandra says, 'lets move on'

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'pK clanning system.'


Bug with Snipe?

Asterix says, 'okay, are snipers normally allowed to snipe through doors, and if so, is it through all doors?'

Vendetta rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Asterix nods his agreement with Vendetta.

Aurralyss laughs.

Asterix says, 'I have to know :P'

Sandra says, 'you can't snipe through a door'

Vendetta gasps in astonishment.

Vendetta says, 'WHAT?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'yes you can'

Asterix says, 'k, because I was JUST sniped through a door'

Sana says, 'no way'

Spanish-Flea says, 'dont imms know about that?'

Sandra says, 'sure once you open it'

Sana says, 'she lies!'

Spanish-Flea says, 'seriously'

Spanish-Flea says, 'dont bug it, continue to snipe through doors'

Asterix says, 'about an hour ago I was sniped in my clanhall by vendetta through a closed door'

Asterix says, 'closed and locked'

Asterix pokes Vendetta in the ribs.

Dalia says, 'that is farking awesome'

Asterix ducks to the ground.

Asterix nods his agreement with Dalia.

Aurralyss says, 'Vendetta is a good shot'

Asterix says, 'well, awesome to see'

Asterix chuckles politely.

Dalia says, 'he shot you through the keyhole :)'

Ebiko says, 'I think you didn't close your windows properly'

Ebiko says, 'you know, those big display windows'

Ebiko says, 'they are kinda scary'

Vendetta says, 'or replace that glass door of yours'

Aurralyss laughs.

Asterix says, 'it's bronze doors or something like that'

Huginn says, 'I miss something?'

Dalia nods solemnly.

Ebiko says, 'you gotta check. like that room in agrabah'

Asterix says, 'I was just wondering if it was a bug that allowed vendetta to shoot me through my clan halls door'

Huginn says, 'ah there are some shoot issues that need looking at'

Asterix nods solemnly.

Huginn says to Asterix, 'What were you doing hiding in there?'

Dalia rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Spanish-Flea says, 'he's a druid'

Asterix says, 'I wasn't hiding'

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'please don't take away shooting through doors trick.'

Huginn says to Asterix, 'Were you augmenting in a clan hall?'

Dalia says, 'from a sniper, none the less'

Huginn says to Vendetta, 'Sorry.. has to go.'

Asterix shakes his head.

Asterix says, 'I was just chatting'

Vendetta says, 'But but...'

Vendetta sighs loudly.

Sandra says, 'hehe'


Dual School Mages?

Ebiko says, 'couple qnas back I forget when'

Ebiko says, 'vanion mentioned that he was thinking of'

Ebiko says, 'that he was wondering if we would ever have mages with both vina and kere in 2c words'

Huginn says, 'no freaking way'

Ebiko says, 'I wanna know what the general uh... feeling is on that'

Huginn says, 'next?'

Ebiko says, 'ah'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Ebiko says, 'lol okie!'

Dalia says, 'awesome answer!'

Dalia says, 'haha'

Ebiko says, 'see wasn't annoying'

Huginn tickles Ebiko.

Vendetta hugs Ebiko.

Sandra says, 'I'd have to ditto that response :)'


Quaff During Combat?

Dalia says, 'Why is it that people can QUAFF during combat? If a character cant drink from a giant water jug... how can they put their lips on a tiny glass vial?'

Dalia says, 'or eat, for that matter'

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'blIND IS CHEAP ENOUGH.'

Huginn says to Dalia, 'You're doing a shot.. tossing it back.'

Sandra says, 'oh blind is pitiful, give me a break :P'

Dalia says, 'but I want my bind to be powerful, and thats not the point :P'

Sandra giggles.

Dalia says, 'It simply doesnt make sense'

Huginn says, 'well consider it for game balance then'

Ebiko says, 'dunno'

Ebiko says, 'dun go into realism'

Vendetta says, 'how can you calmly chant during a fight?'

Sandra says, 'it's a case of game balance over realism. We do that occasionally'

Dalia says, 'weaken blind'

Ebiko says, 'MIRACLE! you are healed'

Ebiko giggles.

Dalia says, 'How about'

Spanish-Flea says, 'btw everyone, 2c str/con cause kleiner dalia is not idiocy proof, so just idiocy through the crud sink and then sink a blind :P'

Dalia says, 'a 45 second timer before you can be blinded for a second time?'

Huginn says, 'quaffing is fine.. if you can get over crossing the atlantic in a canoe, you can deal with quaffing in combat :-)'

Ebiko says, 'but I'm not idiocy proof either. I'm proof of idiocy!'

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'good point.'

Sandra says, 'I think you're being a wimp'

Somar says, 'and if you can shoot someone 10 times without GUARANTEEING at least unconciousness :P'

Spanish-Flea says to Dalia, 'sorry, but when people argue things to make cause mages more powerful it's just an arguement you need to be punished for making.'

Huginn says, 'there are no plans for a blind timer at this point'

Dalia says, 'I'd give up the power of blind and stuff to get rid of incombat quaffing'

Spanish-Flea says, 'so are we still talking about how quaffing needs to be eliminated to make cause mages better?'

Dalia says, 'ew, never mind, im still lagged out'

Spanish-Flea says, 'so are we still talking about how quaffing needs to be eliminated to make cause mages better?'

Sandra says, 'I think you're a wimp complaining about blind :P'

Ebiko says, 'I have forgotten what we were talking about'

Dalia says, 'no i swear im not'

Sandra says, 'sorry, but as an old pkiller, you know blind sucks ass'

Dalia says, 'I was just gonna give a suggestion to weaken blind'

Sandra says, 'if we weaken it any more, we may as well take it out ;)'

Dalia says, 'as a sniper that stopped using blinding arrows, give me credit'

Spanish-Flea says, 'that'd be a start'

Sandra giggles.

Ebiko says, 'um how to weaken?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'just remove it from mages, that'd do it'

Ebiko says, 'as it is you can see room titles?'

Sandra says, 'I'm a fan of the old blind. WHen you were actually blind'

Ebiko says, 'or was that a middle blind'

Ebiko is all confused.

Dalia says, 'Thats fine with me :P'

Dalia says, 'but the point is'

Rusalka says, 'we didn't go down'

Ebiko says, 'I'm confused! what's going on!'

Ebiko whines.

Dalia says, 'You can put a timer on it so that you cant get blinded twice in a certain amount of time'

Spanish-Flea says, 'see heres what old blind should tell you'

Dalia says, 'you can make up medical mumbo jumbo as to why that happens'

Spanish-Flea says, 'if every goddamn lop save a few use a blinding wormy'

Ebiko says, 'how about we put back old blind'

Ebiko says, 'and then imp this timer'

Ebiko says, 'that might be interesting!'

Dalia says, 'Honestly, a timer would be interesting'

Sandra says, 'um, actually we all used a blinding wormy because that was like the only dex weapon out there'

Ebiko says, 'ya, put back the ouch one, put in the timer... that sounds kinda ineresting'

Ebiko says, 'dunno'

Dalia says, 'But i really dont like that people can quaff in mid combat'

Dalia says, 'weaken every god damn spell i have... or take away my spells for all i care'

Dalia says, 'Quaffing things shouldnt be done in combat :P'

Ebiko says, 'er no seriously. would it be really bad?'

Ebiko says, 'put old blind back, put the timer idea in?'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'please tell me, what can I do against a mage who only blinds me?'

Ebiko says, 'that sounds kinda neat to my fried brain'

Sandra says, 'well, we changed it because there were a buncha whiny pkillers :P'

Dalia says, 'Any ponderings on my idea(s)?'

Huginn says, 'no timers'

Vendetta says, 'we can lose link'

Dalia says, 'wow, you make a great point'

Huginn says, 'the old blind might go back in anyway'

Dalia laughs.

Ebiko says to Huginn, 'i think sana wrecked the sana can slay experiment.'

Sandra drools contentedly.

Lorenzo smiles happily.

Dalia says, 'So you're beefing up blind, whatever'

Dalia says, 'what about my real question?'

Sandra says, 'the quaffing one?'

Dalia says, 'quaffing in combat'

Dalia nods solemnly.

Dalia says, 'its ridiculous'

Spanish-Flea says, 'quaffing is bad'

Sandra says, 'it used to be (I don't remember if you were here then) that you could only quaff what you were holding'

Spanish-Flea says, 'blind is retarded'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Dalia says, 'thats too much...'

Sandra says, 'it was sickly evil, but again we changed it because of whiny pkillers :P'

Spanish-Flea says, 'so, you changed an overpowered skill'

Dalia says, 'So you went from too harsh, to too weenie'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and you're not complaining about it?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'blah, are'

Sandra says, 'I'm not complaining'

Dalia says, 'Lets say i cast something, a whole bunch of things on spanish-flea... im skill lagged for those spells'

Spanish-Flea says, ''It was sickly evil, but again we changed it because of whiny pkillers :P' The Evil Sandra says.'

Dalia says, 'and he can get rid of ALL of it, lag-free, with a simple bubbly?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'i cant'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and you cant'

Sandra says, 'sure, that's why it was changed'

Spanish-Flea says, '100 mind sink'

Dalia says, '"quaff bubbly, bash dalia"'

Dalia says, 'in an absolute instant'

Sandra says, 'well, that's a problem with dispel magic, imo'

Spanish-Flea says, 'quaff bubbly, lose sink'

Ebiko says, 'ooh I can do that'

Sandra says, 'not quaff'

Spanish-Flea says, 'not antipreps'

Dalia says to Spanish-Flea, 'Not my point.'

Ebiko says, 'but I dun think you'd fall over'

Ebiko pouts at Dalia.

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'yes, but one can only have like 4 bubblies at most.'

Spanish-Flea says, 'thats why things that require a bubbly are great on 2c magic casters'

Dalia says, 'I spent skill-rounds putting things on someone'

Sandra says, 'I think dispel magic should only take off 1 or 2 spells, and pick them randomly'

Dalia says, 'and its gone, with NO lag'

Dalia nods her agreement with Sandra.

Dalia says, 'Thats what other muds do'

Ebiko says, 'actually 4 bubblies means lots of rounds you're hitting me'

Dalia says, 'Although its not random'

Ebiko says, 'and I just got nothing for it'

Dalia says, 'its based on cast level'

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'what are you doing? you can use preps when they run out of bubblies.'

Ebiko says, 'but I like the random idea'

Spanish-Flea says, 'yes you do'

Spanish-Flea says, '4 bubblies later you win'

Spanish-Flea says, 'you bind vendetta'

Spanish-Flea says, 'he cant run'

Spanish-Flea says, 'you sit away, healing for two ticks'

Spanish-Flea says, 'come in, blind'

Vendetta says to Dalia, 'bind me 5 times and I lose?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'he cant dispel it'

Vendetta says to Dalia, '...'

Ebiko says, 'dunno. I like the random idea'

Ebiko says, 'but!'

Dalia says to Vendetta, 'Wat??'

Spanish-Flea says, 'i can easily afford to throw 5 blinds on someone if it wins me a fight'

Ebiko says, 'want the create spell to be full (but catch on sink)'

Ebiko says, '(product differientation)'

Dalia says, 'argh, you guys all talk too much, i have no idea who is talking to me about what :P'

Sandra shakes her head.

Ebiko says, 'can be otherwise around too'

Ebiko says, 'not care'

Sandra says, 'sorry, but I don't like the create version either :)'

Ebiko says, 'no I mean'

Ebiko says, 'I dun care'

Sandra giggles.

Ebiko says, 'if make the create random'

Ebiko says, 'and make the vials 100percent'

Sandra put it on idea for further discussion.

Ebiko says, 'but make some difference'

Dalia says, 'Ok, im so spammed and confused right now... just tell me where quaffing mid-combat stands'

Ebiko says to Dalia, 'no one answered that.'

Ebiko comforts Dalia.

Dalia says, 'if something becomes overpowered, tell me and i can come up with a solution'

Ebiko says, 'I think'

Spanish-Flea says, 'can we get another huggin' shutdown of 'no freaking way'???'

Ebiko giggles.

Huginn says, 'there are no plans to changing quaffing at this time..'

Ebiko says, 'doh'

Sandra says, 'well, we got that old blind may come back, and that dispel magic is way ...'


Old Blind vs New Blind?

Vendetta says, 'um, Ok I would like to suggest something'

Vendetta says, 'we all know with a well in the room or any water source'

Vendetta says, 'by typing 'drink' you auto drink from it'

Vendetta says, 'so'

Vendetta says, 'why can't you drink like that when you're blind?'

Ebiko says, 'I guess you can't find the default drinky'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Sandra nods her agreement with Ebiko.

Ebiko says, 'you can drink from your own jug though'

Ebiko says, 'if you didn't know'

Ebiko says, 'like if I have a chalice out and a jug'

Sandra says, 'yea, that's the wimpy blind thing'

Ebiko says, 'and I am blind, I can still fill chalice drink chalice'

Spanish-Flea says, 'i think he means it in the context of the abbey font'

Vendetta says, 'Ok'

Ebiko says, 'oh. noluck there sorry - think is what I said, not sure'

Ebiko wobbles around unsteadily - better sniff her breath!

Vendetta says, 'can we have a flavor cure blind thing?'

Sandra says, 'probably not, no. But maybe if an herb comes around that is supposed to do that in the future'

Vendetta says, 'eyebright'

Vendetta coughs loudly.

Sandra says, 'that's brewed, not flavored. Not the same'

Vendetta says, 'I'm willing to look that over'

Sandra says, 'we're not :)'

Vendetta grins evilly at Sandra... Wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra giggles.

Vendetta says, 'that's my question'

Sandra smiles happily.

Vendetta says, 'and it's been answered'


Dispel Illusion Directable?

Ebiko says, 'can we make dispel illusion a directable spell?'

Ebiko says, 'say I want to dispel a silly illusion in the stag'

Ebiko says, 'I cast dispel'

Ebiko says, 'poor puny sitting there'

Spanish-Flea says, 'noo! my flowing robes!'

Ebiko says, 'shield vanished armor vanished'

Ebiko says, 'hrmmmm'

Ebiko says, 'yeah robes vanihsed!'

Ebiko says, 'poor people!'

Ebiko says, 'dont se someone's dopp'

Ebiko says, 'dopp vanish'

Vendetta says, 'good riddance'

Spanish-Flea says, 'that used to happen to denstra so often'

Ebiko says, 'would it be really hard to code?'

Ebiko would prefer to be able to do general OR directed.

Sana says, 'yeah!'

Sana says, 'either or is bad'

Ebiko says, 'undirected defaults to general, directed so you don't whack people accidentally'

Huginn says, 'hmm it'd be possible'

Sana says, 'but both is good'

Spanish-Flea wants cause mages to be able to pick up and eat fire walls like sandra

Kaige says, 'Hrath had that mostly done at one point.'

Sandra says, 'it's something we've talked about in the past, but not really come to an agreement on. I'm sure we'll consider it again'

Ebiko says, 'oh'

Ebiko says, 'just wanted it to be considerate like =/'

Ebiko feels bad poofing armor off newbies robes off people and 75 mana off other people.

Ebiko says, 'all to get rid of a Sana was here illusion.'

Ebiko ducks to the ground.


Perc & Detect Illusion?

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'can 100 perc detect illusion or invis?'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Sandra says, 'probably not'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement.

Vendetta says, 'will you consider it?'

Sandra says, 'probably not ;)'

Spanish-Flea says to Huginn, 'if you wont consider it, at least say 'no freaking way'.'

Sana says, 'why! you can already jump over walls'

Ebiko says, 'ya say that, he's cute when he says it'

Huginn says to Sana, 'Climb.. not jump.'

Vendetta says, 'OK part 2 of my 3 part question'

Sana says, 'same difference!'

Vendetta says, 'if I am in a room with 2 exits'

Vendetta says, 'But exits are MUST climb'

Sana says, 'who doesnt have climb in this day and age!'

Vendetta says, 'and I flee'

Dalia says, 'you can climb over walls?'

Vendetta says, 'Can I flee through it?'

Ebiko nods her agreement with Dalia.

Ebiko says to Dalia, 'automagic now.'

Dalia says, 'Oh please god tell me "You leap over a stone wall in a single bound!"'

Huginn says, 'hmm I don't think so'

Dalia says, 'is the message'

Ebiko says to Dalia, 'if you flyink or can climb you got chance to get away.'

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'can you make that happen?'

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'it's the same concept as walls.'

Sana says, 'not a chance its like 100%'

Huginn says to Vendetta, 'Walls were a balance issue.'

Sana says, 'but you get a round of lag or so after'

Huginn says to Sana, 'Its not 100%.'

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'and I will give you an example of why it is bad, there is a boar in a room through which you climb.'

Dalia says, 'well, im gonna go learn climb now, so my stupid clanmate doesnt wall me in to get pounded'

Sana says, 'it is in reality!'

Dalia peers at Sana, looking her up and down.

Sana says, 'nobody ever not makes it over the wall'

Vendetta says, 'and when you climb into the room'

Vendetta says, 'it attacks you'

Vendetta says, 'and you're stuck'

Dalia says, 'Is there a lag for not making it over the wall?'

Vendetta says, 'to kill or be killed'

Vendetta nods his agreement with Dalia.

Dalia says, 'Or can you spam flee until you make it over'

Ebiko rolls around laughing at Dalia's joke.

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'was that a no?'

Sana says, 'remind me to try a wall chain on some unsuspecting egg later'

Vendetta says, 'or are you guys typing?'

Huginn says to Dalia, 'If you fail on a wall, you lag more.'

Dalia nods solemnly.

Huginn says to Vendetta, 'That's more of a builder issue.'

Vendetta says to Sana, 'you gotta stop changing topics on my ideas.'

Vendetta says to Sana, 'you screwed up my perc post.'

Sana pointedly ignores Vendetta. Bit chilly in here, eh what?

Vendetta pouts at Sana.

Sana says, 'not my fault the imms used my ranting as a way to get off your perc thing'

Sana says, 'how was I to know, nobody ever pays attention to me!'

Vendetta nods solemnly.

Spanish-Flea says, 'we cant not pay attention to you'

Vendetta says, 'OK third part is to sandra mostly'


Old Blind and PK?

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'tell me a story of the 'old days', when blind was so BAD, what did you Mighty Sandra do?'

Vendetta says, 'When you got blinded?'

Ebiko says, 'weren't you there then?'

Ebiko would run to rent it off.

Spanish-Flea says, 'my guess is she was on the abusing end'

Huginn says, 'she ran to an inn and rented?'

Sandra says, 'um, Lori was my pkiller'

Ebiko would know where she was and run to rent it off.

Ebiko is confused.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'yES.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'can we rent now?'

Vendetta says to Sana, 'cAN WE?'

Ebiko says, 'oh cute'

Sandra says, 'usually I just kept fighting and then eventually cast cure blind'

Ebiko says, 'you can run and rent sure'

Ebiko says, 'oh'

Somar says, 'I know this one, I know this one!'

Ebiko says, 'I meant with non casters'

Ebiko giggles.

Somar blinding flashed her once.

Ebiko ponders her own existence - better keep an eye on her.

Sandra says, 'I never rented off a blind'

Ebiko did!

Ebiko did lots.

Somar says, 'she cure blinded, then stuck a sharp weapon in a painful crevice.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'oh I forgot I could cast cure blind.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Somar.

Dalia says, 'actually, she'd just point at you and you would WFW until the blind wore off'

Sandra says to Vendetta, 'You can walk around, seeing room exits, and your inventory and quaff from that inventory repeatedly. Suck it up.'

Sandra grins evilly at Dalia... Wonder what she's thinking...

Ebiko comforts Dalia.

Somar says, 'then again, no pkiller worth their salt couldn't find the nearest inn blind :P'

Ebiko says to Dalia, 'don't hissyfit! she said the quaff word!'

Ebiko nods her agreement with Somar.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'oh ya, because I have THAT many clear vials.'

Ebiko giggles.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'actually there is a way to fight blind.'

Vendetta says, 'Don't PK'

Dalia says, 'thats how you can dampen blind! lower rent on clear vials... but for gods sake, dont let it be quaffed in combat! :P'

Sandra says, 'if I'm on my last clear, and that person has gottem me to that last clear, I'm not gonna hang around with that only one left. I'm gonna get more or run like mad til they get bored'

Vendetta says, 'that's a sure way you won't get spammed blind.'

Spanish-Flea says to Sandra, 'only a real loser would go hit up a brewer for more vials mid fight.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'so you won't fight anyone who spams blind.'

Sandra says, 'I'm not gonna hang around to let them make me use it and then some'

Spanish-Flea says, 'hey vendetta'

Spanish-Flea says, 'heres how you beat blind'

Spanish-Flea says, 'next time you get spam blinded'

Dalia says, 'wear goggles?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'go rent'

Vendetta says, 'then I can wait till it wear off'

Vendetta says, 'rented'

Ebiko says to Vendetta, 'oo imma blind you!'

Spanish-Flea says, 'because by sandra logic, you cant lose a fight due to a cheap skill, you gotta outcheap the other person'

Sandra says, 'I didn't say rent. Gosh'

Somar personally prefers the 'move through the opponent's room REAL quickly, so they cast when you're not in the room, and waste mana' tactic.

Spanish-Flea says, 'and when he gets hit, i'll heal the damage, if someone has gotten vendetta down to his last 400 hp, he needs to flee and go get above again by god'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'if you PLEASE make it old blind.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'at least OLD blind you had no lag on moving.'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Sana says to Vendetta, 'i dont wanna.'

Huginn says, 'old blind is better in a lot of ways'

Sandra says, 'I LIKED old blind. This blind is pathetic'

Vendetta says, 'it's overpowered'

Spanish-Flea says, 'mmm...stumbling around and losing butt tons of mv blind'

Vendetta says, 'you can't run'

Sandra says, 'oh look! I'm blind. But i can still see where I'm going'

Huginn says, 'for people who know their way around'

Vendetta says, 'it costs TONS of move'

Dalia nods her agreement with Sandra.

Vendetta says, 'and it's -20 ac'

Huginn says, 'and its slow'

Somar says to Sandra, 'We sacrifice realism for game balance, on occasion.'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and 3 hitroll'

Somar panics, and attempts to flee.

Vendetta says, 'why would BLIND make you lose ac?'

Sandra giggles at Somar.

Dalia says, 'get em!'

Huginn says, 'well the old blind did stuff like ac too'

Ebiko says, 'uh'

Sandra says to Somar, 'That wasn't a game balance thing. That was a constant whining thing.'

Ebiko says, 'cause you canna see where the hits are coming from?'

Ebiko says, 'you're not daredevil man!'

Huginn nods his agreement with Ebiko.

Vendetta says to Huginn, 'i didn't say it was good, but it's lesser of 2 evils.'


Problems with Create Mages?

Sana says, 'lets talk about creates!'

Sana says, 'I have a list of things that have been bothering me'

Sana says, 'should I start at the top or the bottom?'

Ebiko says, 'ooh bottom'

Sandra says, 'whichever is shorter'

Sana says, 'okay'

Ebiko says, 'bottom!!!'

Sana says, 'number 354: Creates suck'

Sandra giggles.

Sana says, 'number 353: wall of flame is really bad'

Dalia says, 'Yeah but your wall of thorns is cheap :P'

Dalia says, 'so you're set'

Sana says, 'numbers 352 through 2 are all about wall of flame sucking'

Sana says, 'and number one is uh'

Sana says, 'charms are wierd about using wands'

Sana says, 'whats up with that?'

Ebiko says, 'how are they weird?'

Ebiko is curious.

Sandra says, 'yea how so?'

Sana says, 'well like I had a fight against someone a while back and I ordered my charm to use a flame orb thing'

Sana says, 'and he wouldnt'

Sana says, 'then later on both in and out of combat it worked fine'

Sana says, 'and I didnt mistype'

Somar says to Sana, 'How much karma do you have?'

Ebiko says, 'oh how odd'

Sana says, 'and then another time they wouldn't use their staffs of wind'

Sandra says, 'yea if your karma is low, it won't work'

Ebiko says, 'I haven't had that happen it always works'

Ebiko says, 'I can test it though'

Sana says, 'and then later when i ordered them to use them on ME it worked fine'

Sana says, 'so my theory is that the code just hates me'

Somar says, 'oh, I forgot, karma is a hidden stat'

Sandra says, 'see'

Ebiko finds her charmies always use their wands like they should.

Sandra says, 'that's karma'


When PK Meeting Rescheduled For?

Spanish-Flea says, 'when is the Pk meeting being rescheduled too! :D'

Spanish-Flea says, 'i forgot to ask'

Sandra says, 'oh, Probably after thanksgiving. Hopefully I won't get the flu again'


PK Doubles Tournament?

Sana says, 'when is the doubles tournament?'

Vendetta says, 'EVENTS'

Vendetta whaps Sana across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Sandra says, 'it's in events'

Sana says, 'can I have a late entry pass so ladyace doesnt disqualify me for being 2 minutes late like always?'

Sandra says, 'that's up to her :P'

Spanish-Flea says, 'but you're her equal'

Spanish-Flea says, 'it should be your decision'

Sana says, 'is it going to be a stock or restock one?'

Sandra says, 'she'll probably restock ya'

Sana says, 'is duckon gonna win again?'


Changes with Scan

Huginn says, 'oh one last thing'

Huginn says, 'scan..'

Spanish-Flea says, 'will it not blow?'

Huginn says, 'you'll be able to scan vendetta and it'll come back with very little lag..'

Drakkon says, 'I think scan at 100 perc should be perfect scans all the time :)'

Vendetta throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Ebiko says to Huginn, 'yay!'

Drakkon giggles.

Vendetta says, 'what will scanning me do?'

Huginn says, 'if vendetta is nearby it'll tell you if vendetta is alert or not'

Vendetta throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Vendetta says, 'YES'

Ebiko says to Vendetta, 'you'll only be able to scan vendetta though.'

Huginn says, 'but if you use that argument it won't give dir'

Drakkon ducks to the ground.

Huginn nods his agreement with Ebiko.

Huginn snickers softly.

Ebiko hangs her head.

Vendetta says, 'of course'

Sana says, '....'

Geraden looks up into the sky and ponders.

Drow says, 'Scan has always said "immediately south" was it intended to go more than one room, like, further south? etc?'

Vendetta says to Drow, 'yes!'

Drow says, 'etc didn't mean to'

Vendetta says to Drow, 'immediately, A ways, and Far.'

Geraden nods his agreement with Vendetta.

Drow says, 'I don't get any of that'

Vendetta says, 'immediately = 1, a ways = 2, far = 3'

Drow says, 'I only get immediately'

Vendetta says to Drow, 'cause there's no one 3 south of you?'

Drow says, 'I went 2 south of quickley and scanned'

Drow says, 'couldn't get her on scan'

Spanish-Flea says, 'did the door close?'

Sandra says, 'ok, thanks for coming everyone :P'

Ebiko says to Sandra, 'do we get cookies?'

Vendetta waves to Sandra.

Sandra has created a fudge brownie with nuts!

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'thanks, I addressed a lot of important issues.'

Sandra says, 'there ya go'

Ebiko says, 'ooh cookies for all!!!'

Vendetta throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Ebiko beams delightedly.


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